Hi helpers



well i am rather stuck with a problem associated with so called OOP 

technology programing in VISUAL BASIC



I have a general function in a COM+ component which retireves the record 

set in the form of disconnected recordset for any SQL query as input.



Now for this recordset how should i tackle in the client end class module 

for navigational or update processes.



I mean i now pass this record set to the client class module and then if 

my toolbar "Next" (in my mdi form) button is pressed then the record 

should scroll to the next record for any particular active form present in 

mdi.

For this currently i am passing my recordset and form name as parameters 

but this does not seem to work properly and on the contrary is making my 

code extremely complicated

What should be my approach??



the reasoning would be implied for any further operations also since i 

know even in update or save i will be facing the same difficulty, since 

then i will have to assign the text control values back to the recordset 

for updating



This makes me feel traditional 2 tier was far more simple than this n-tier 

model:(

You have just hit on a problem that is a huge subject (and the question is 

probably best suited to the pro_vb list).  I am afraid the only answer is 

to do some research (Wrox do a couple of books that have methodology you 

can use look at Lhokta's books), However below is a very brief suggection 

as to how you could do this.  But there is no right or wrong ways to do 

this, just a mixture of varying degrees of appropriateness, and 

efficiency.  



What you need to do is create a database tier, this will create your 

recordset



Next is the business (object) layer this will probably have a collection 

of individual objects that have been created using the recordset.  These 

objects can then be passed to the form one at a time when needed.







> Hi helpers

> 

> well i am rather stuck with a problem associated with so called OOP 

> technology programing in VISUAL BASIC

> 

> I have a general function in a COM+ component which retireves the record 

> set in the form of disconnected recordset for any SQL query as input.

> 

> Now for this recordset how should i tackle in the client end class 

module 

> for navigational or update processes.

> 

> I mean i now pass this record set to the client class module and then if 

> my toolbar "Next" (in my mdi form) button is pressed then the record 

> should scroll to the next record for any particular active form present 

in 

> mdi.

> For this currently i am passing my recordset and form name as parameters 

> but this does not seem to work properly and on the contrary is making my 

> code extremely complicated

> What should be my approach??

> 

> the reasoning would be implied for any further operations also since i 

> know even in update or save i will be facing the same difficulty, since 

> then i will have to assign the text control values back to the recordset 

> for updating

> 

> This makes me feel traditional 2 tier was far more simple than this n-

tier 

> model:(

Hi Richard Maly

Thanks, I guessed it so and so did i say it in my last

line. But then the problem comes down to the

efficiency of code written to tackle these type of

situations.



--- Richard Maly <maly@m...> wrote:

> You have just hit on a problem that is a huge

> subject (and the question is 

> probably best suited to the pro_vb list).  I am

> afraid the only answer is 

> to do some research (Wrox do a couple of books that

> have methodology you 

> can use look at Lhokta's books), However below is a

> very brief suggection 

> as to how you could do this.  But there is no right

> or wrong ways to do 

> this, just a mixture of varying degrees of

> appropriateness, and 

> efficiency.  

> 

> What you need to do is create a database tier, this

> will create your 

> recordset

> 

> Next is the business (object) layer this will

> probably have a collection 

> of individual objects that have been created using

> the recordset.  These 

> objects can then be passed to the form one at a time

> when needed.

> 

> 

> 

> > Hi helpers

> > 

> > well i am rather stuck with a problem associated

> with so called OOP 

> > technology programing in VISUAL BASIC

> > 

> > I have a general function in a COM+ component

> which retireves the record 

> > set in the form of disconnected recordset for any

> SQL query as input.

> > 

> > Now for this recordset how should i tackle in the

> client end class 

> module 

> > for navigational or update processes.

> > 

> > I mean i now pass this record set to the client

> class module and then if 

> > my toolbar "Next" (in my mdi form) button is

> pressed then the record 

> > should scroll to the next record for any

> particular active form present 

> in 

> > mdi.

> > For this currently i am passing my recordset and

> form name as parameters 

> > but this does not seem to work properly and on the

> contrary is making my 

> > code extremely complicated

> > What should be my approach??

> > 

> > the reasoning would be implied for any further

> operations also since i 

> > know even in update or save i will be facing the

> same difficulty, since 

> > then i will have to assign the text control values

> back to the recordset 

> > for updating

> > 

> > This makes me feel traditional 2 tier was far more

> simple than this n-

> tier 

> > model:(

> 

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I think I know the answer to your problem.  Now that you've made a COM+

component that retrieves recordsets from your recordsource, you should now

create a client-side class module that encapsulates the retrieved recordset

and globally instantiate your class so that any navigation done in your

recordset (now a class) is reflected on the forms within the MDI.



Joseph



Also, try reading WROX' VB6 UML Design and Developement, this book will help

you a lot



----- Original Message -----

From: "Krishna Vaddadi" <krishnavaddadi@y...>

To: "ActiveX_Data_Objects" <activex_data_objects@p...>

Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:24 AM

Subject: [activex_data_objects] Using the recordset of any particular form

in a class module(Visual Basic)





> Hi helpers

>

> well i am rather stuck with a problem associated with so called OOP

> technology programing in VISUAL BASIC

>

> I have a general function in a COM+ component which retireves the record

> set in the form of disconnected recordset for any SQL query as input.

>

> Now for this recordset how should i tackle in the client end class module

> for navigational or update processes.

>

> I mean i now pass this record set to the client class module and then if

> my toolbar "Next" (in my mdi form) button is pressed then the record

> should scroll to the next record for any particular active form present in

> mdi.

> For this currently i am passing my recordset and form name as parameters

> but this does not seem to work properly and on the contrary is making my

> code extremely complicated

> What should be my approach??

>

> the reasoning would be implied for any further operations also since i

> know even in update or save i will be facing the same difficulty, since

> then i will have to assign the text control values back to the recordset

> for updating

>

> This makes me feel traditional 2 tier was far more simple than this n-tier

> model:(

>



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Hi Jake Sturm

Thats ok i believe i need to accentuate the point that

i am facing problem in the client module and not the

server module

Now in this client module how is my class going to

recognise which form's control need to display which

recordset value?? i mean when i press "Next" in my mdi

toolbar then how is the activeform going to get with

this current recordset? and for which control this

value need to be displayed?? i mean every form has

different controls on it and if i try to display thru

count then there is a high probability that the index

of recordset value not matching the count order

conreol on the form

I hope i am being clear rather than messing it up more

:(



--- Jake Sturm <jake_sturm@y...> wrote:

> I think I know the answer to your problem.  Now that

> you've made a COM+

> component that retrieves recordsets from your

> recordsource, you should now

> create a client-side class module that encapsulates

> the retrieved recordset

> and globally instantiate your class so that any

> navigation done in your

> recordset (now a class) is reflected on the forms

> within the MDI.

> 

> Joseph

> 

> Also, try reading WROX' VB6 UML Design and

> Developement, this book will help

> you a lot

> 

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Krishna Vaddadi" <krishnavaddadi@y...>

> To: "ActiveX_Data_Objects"

> <activex_data_objects@p...>

> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:24 AM

> Subject: [activex_data_objects] Using the recordset

> of any particular form

> in a class module(Visual Basic)

> 

> 

> > Hi helpers

> >

> > well i am rather stuck with a problem associated

> with so called OOP

> > technology programing in VISUAL BASIC

> >

> > I have a general function in a COM+ component

> which retireves the record

> > set in the form of disconnected recordset for any

> SQL query as input.

> >

> > Now for this recordset how should i tackle in the

> client end class module

> > for navigational or update processes.

> >

> > I mean i now pass this record set to the client

> class module and then if

> > my toolbar "Next" (in my mdi form) button is

> pressed then the record

> > should scroll to the next record for any

> particular active form present in

> > mdi.

> > For this currently i am passing my recordset and

> form name as parameters

> > but this does not seem to work properly and on the

> contrary is making my

> > code extremely complicated

> > What should be my approach??

> >

> > the reasoning would be implied for any further

> operations also since i

> > know even in update or save i will be facing the

> same difficulty, since

> > then i will have to assign the text control values

> back to the recordset

> > for updating

> >

> > This makes me feel traditional 2 tier was far more

> simple than this n-tier

> > model:(

> >

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I see, your problem is how to bind those controls to the recordset's values,

well, there are 2 solutions to your problem, you can either use an ADO

control and point it to your disconnected recordset or have a data-source

class module that encapsulates the recordset and point each control's

datasource to your made class.



----- Original Message -----

From: "KRISHNA VADDADI" <krishnavaddadi@y...>

To: "ActiveX_Data_Objects" <activex_data_objects@p...>

Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:57 PM

Subject: [activex_data_objects] Re: Using the recordset of any particular

form in a class module(Visual Basic)





> Hi Jake Sturm

> Thats ok i believe i need to accentuate the point that

> i am facing problem in the client module and not the

> server module

> Now in this client module how is my class going to

> recognise which form's control need to display which

> recordset value?? i mean when i press "Next" in my mdi

> toolbar then how is the activeform going to get with

> this current recordset? and for which control this

> value need to be displayed?? i mean every form has

> different controls on it and if i try to display thru

> count then there is a high probability that the index

> of recordset value not matching the count order

> conreol on the form

> I hope i am being clear rather than messing it up more

> :(

>

> --- Jake Sturm <jake_sturm@y...> wrote:

> > I think I know the answer to your problem.  Now that

> > you've made a COM+

> > component that retrieves recordsets from your

> > recordsource, you should now

> > create a client-side class module that encapsulates

> > the retrieved recordset

> > and globally instantiate your class so that any

> > navigation done in your

> > recordset (now a class) is reflected on the forms

> > within the MDI.

> >

> > Joseph

> >

> > Also, try reading WROX' VB6 UML Design and

> > Developement, this book will help

> > you a lot

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: "Krishna Vaddadi" <krishnavaddadi@y...>

> > To: "ActiveX_Data_Objects"

> > <activex_data_objects@p...>

> > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:24 AM

> > Subject: [activex_data_objects] Using the recordset

> > of any particular form

> > in a class module(Visual Basic)

> >

> >

> > > Hi helpers

> > >

> > > well i am rather stuck with a problem associated

> > with so called OOP

> > > technology programing in VISUAL BASIC

> > >

> > > I have a general function in a COM+ component

> > which retireves the record

> > > set in the form of disconnected recordset for any

> > SQL query as input.

> > >

> > > Now for this recordset how should i tackle in the

> > client end class module

> > > for navigational or update processes.

> > >

> > > I mean i now pass this record set to the client

> > class module and then if

> > > my toolbar "Next" (in my mdi form) button is

> > pressed then the record

> > > should scroll to the next record for any

> > particular active form present in

> > > mdi.

> > > For this currently i am passing my recordset and

> > form name as parameters

> > > but this does not seem to work properly and on the

> > contrary is making my

> > > code extremely complicated

> > > What should be my approach??

> > >

> > > the reasoning would be implied for any further

> > operations also since i

> > > know even in update or save i will be facing the

> > same difficulty, since

> > > then i will have to assign the text control values

> > back to the recordset

> > > for updating

> > >

> > > This makes me feel traditional 2 tier was far more

> > simple than this n-tier

> > > model:(

> > >

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Hi Jake Sturm

Thanks for the tip

i think even i am in the same lines i am actually

doing it like this as explained below :

1.) For navigational purposes: eg say for move

previous:(i wrote this in my client end class module



Public Sub ShowPreviousRecord(ByVal rsPreviousRecord

As ADODB.Recordset)

If rsPreviousRecord.RecordCount > 0 Then

rsPreviousRecord.MovePrevious



    If rsPreviousRecord.BOF Then

        Call ShowMessage("First Record")

        rsPreviousRecord.MoveFirst

    End If



End If

End Sub



This is irrespective of the active form and is going

to previous record

Now comes showing these values on the respective form

whichever is active



Public Sub ShowValuesOnForm(ByVal rsShowRecords As

ADODB.Recordset, ByRef frmName As Form)

Select Case frmName.Name

Case "frmCompanyMaster"

    frmName.txtCompanyCode.Text 

rsShowRecords("CompanyCode")

    frmName.txtDescription.Text 

rsShowRecords("Description")

case "frmContractMaster"

OTHER RELATED CONTROLS ON THIS FORM...

case OTHER FORM

.....



End Select

End Sub



Here i even pass the form name and depending on the

form i know which controls are there so i directly

assign these record set values to this form



same logic i have applied while modifying values

but the assigning values are reversed, I felt this is

the simplest to follow and so did i do it, any

suggestions on this are whole heartedly welcome :)

Thanks

Krishna







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