Hello,
I really want to learn the new .net technologies. I do need suggestions 
from you.

1. What kind of software should I install on my PC? I guess visual 
studio.net is a must, how about windows .net framework. Anyone can give me 
some detailed information or some good site to look at?

2.About the software, does Microsoft sell versions for educational prupose 
at a lower price?

3.I am thinking to learn visual basic.net, asp.net, c++.net and some C#. 
Anyone knows some real good books? ( I am pretty good at the old things: 
C++,VB, Java, ASP and etc.)

I appreciate your help.
Cindy

1)
a) you have to install the .net framework.  it's a free download from
www.msdn.microsoft.com
b) you can can work in .net using any of the languages without the IDE in
notepad, but you dont have the advantages of the intellisense, project
templates, etc.

2) i took a MS Developer Training Class with Extreme Logic in Atlanta that
was a free course.  included within the materials was a 60-day trial version
of visual studio.net.

3) the wrox .net books are pretty good from what i have seen.  i have the
microsoft press MCSD.NET training book for windows applications which seems
pretty good as well.  also, there are a number of pretty good websites with
.net related materials (like msdn).

good luck,
david
----- Original Message -----
From: "cindy zhou" <czhou@w...>
To: "ADO.NET" <ado_dotnet@p...>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 05:13 PM
Subject: [ado_dotnet] Any suggestion on learning .Net?


> Hello,
> I really want to learn the new .net technologies. I do need suggestions
> from you.
>
> 1. What kind of software should I install on my PC? I guess visual
> studio.net is a must, how about windows .net framework. Anyone can give me
> some detailed information or some good site to look at?
>
> 2.About the software, does Microsoft sell versions for educational prupose
> at a lower price?
>
> 3.I am thinking to learn visual basic.net, asp.net, c++.net and some C#.
> Anyone knows some real good books? ( I am pretty good at the old things:
> C++,VB, Java, ASP and etc.)
>
> I appreciate your help.
> Cindy
>
>
> ===
> Fast Track ADO.NET with C# is a concise introduction to the concepts,
techniques, and libraries that you will need in order to start using ADO.NET
in your applications. The book covers DataSets and Typed DataSets, accessing
data using DataReaders and DataAdaptors, the close relationship between
ADO.NET and XML, how and where to use ADO.NET in your enterprise
applications, and how to use Web Services and ADO.NET to easily pass data
between applications.
> http://www.wrox.com/books/1861007604.htm
>

Cindy,

You can download the .NET Framework from Microsoft for free.  With the
Framework, you will get ASP.NET and command-line compilers for VB.NET
and C#.  To use the Framework and ASP.NET, you will need to be on either
Windows 2000 or Windows XP Professional with IIS installed.

For development purposes, Microsoft is providing a free tool called
WebMatrix.  It is available for download at www.asp.net.

As far as books as concerned, I have found the WROX ASP.NET books to
very helpful and useful.

Hope this helps!

Christopher Reed
Application Analyst
Web Development Coordinator
Information Technology
City of Lubbock
creed@m...
"The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."

>>> czhou@w... 5:13:51 PM 12/5/2002 >>>
Hello,
I really want to learn the new .net technologies. I do need suggestions

from you.

1. What kind of software should I install on my PC? I guess visual 
studio.net is a must, how about windows .net framework. Anyone can give
me 
some detailed information or some good site to look at?

2.About the software, does Microsoft sell versions for educational
prupose 
at a lower price?

3.I am thinking to learn visual basic.net, asp.net, c++.net and some
C#. 
Anyone knows some real good books? ( I am pretty good at the old
things: 
C++,VB, Java, ASP and etc.)

I appreciate your help.
Cindy

Thanks very much for your valuable answers, David and Christopher.

So Windows.net framework is a must to run .net applications, right? I will 
download it and give it a try. 

I still have a question: How does the visual studio.net fit in this? 

Thanks,
Cindy

Visual Studio.Net is an application which provides all the tools to build
different types of .net applications (e.g., web, windows etc), also you can
use different languages, C#, VB.NET etc...



-----Original Message-----
From: cindy zhou [mailto:czhou@w...]
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 1:55 PM
To: ADO.NET
Subject: [ado_dotnet] Re: Any suggestion on learning .Net?



Thanks very much for your valuable answers, David and Christopher.

So Windows.net framework is a must to run .net applications, right? I will 
download it and give it a try. 

I still have a question: How does the visual studio.net fit in this? 

Thanks,
Cindy

===
Fast Track ADO.NET with C# is a concise introduction to the concepts,
techniques, and libraries that you will need in order to start using ADO.NET
in your applications. The book covers DataSets and Typed DataSets, accessing
data using DataReaders and DataAdaptors, the close relationship between
ADO.NET and XML, how and where to use ADO.NET in your enterprise
applications, and how to use Web Services and ADO.NET to easily pass data
between applications.
http://www.wrox.com/books/1861007604.htm


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Visual Studio .NET provides you with a feature-rich integrated
development environment.  It can help you utilize rapid application
development techniques in producing applications.  It does, however,
cost you some money to get it.

On the other hand, there is the WebMatrix tool from Microsoft
(www.asp.net).  WebMatrix not only lets you create ASP.NET applications,
it also has a built-in web environment just in case you do not have IIS
running on the machine you're working on (especially if it's running
Windows XP Home).  While, obviously, it can used to create web
applications only, it comes free of charge.

Hope this helps further!

Christopher Reed
Application Analyst
Web Development Coordinator
Information Technology
City of Lubbock
creed@m...
"The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."

>>> czhou@w... 1:54:37 PM 12/6/2002 >>>

Thanks very much for your valuable answers, David and Christopher.

So Windows.net framework is a must to run .net applications, right? I
will 
download it and give it a try. 

I still have a question: How does the visual studio.net fit in this? 

Thanks,
Cindy

Christopher:

One more question: if I have visual studio.net installed, is it still 
necessary to have windows .net framework?

thank you,
Cindy

When you install Visual Studio.NET, the installation process will check
your computer for required "pre-installs".  These pre-installs are
located on the Windows Componets Disk that comes with Visual Studio.NET.
 Note, however, that if you do not have IIS installed at the time you
install the .NET Framework, ASP.NET will not function correctly.  You
need to install IIS prior to the .NET Framework (and Visual
Studio.NET).

Again, hope this helps!

Christopher Reed
Application Analyst
Web Development Coordinator
Information Technology
City of Lubbock
creed@m...
"The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."

>>> czhou@w... 4:11:36 PM 12/6/2002 >>>
Christopher:

One more question: if I have visual studio.net installed, is it still 
necessary to have windows .net framework?

thank you,
Cindy
===

I love Mastering Visual Basic .ent
database programming by Sybex

I have 2 other books...
Wrox is good
Beginning web programming using vb.net & visual studio .net
is another good book

stay away from Sams Teach yourself asp.net in 24 hours

Just my $.02

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: David Adams [mailto:davidadams00@h...]
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 1:30 PM
To: ADO.NET
Subject: [ado_dotnet] Re: Any suggestion on learning .Net?


1)
a) you have to install the .net framework.  it's a free download from
www.msdn.microsoft.com
b) you can can work in .net using any of the languages without the IDE
in
notepad, but you dont have the advantages of the intellisense, project
templates, etc.

2) i took a MS Developer Training Class with Extreme Logic in Atlanta
that
was a free course.  included within the materials was a 60-day trial
version
of visual studio.net.

3) the wrox .net books are pretty good from what i have seen.  i have
the
microsoft press MCSD.NET training book for windows applications which
seems
pretty good as well.  also, there are a number of pretty good websites
with
.net related materials (like msdn).

good luck,
david
----- Original Message -----
From: "cindy zhou" <czhou@w...>
To: "ADO.NET" <ado_dotnet@p...>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 05:13 PM
Subject: [ado_dotnet] Any suggestion on learning .Net?


> Hello,
> I really want to learn the new .net technologies. I do need
suggestions
> from you.
>
> 1. What kind of software should I install on my PC? I guess visual
> studio.net is a must, how about windows .net framework. Anyone can
give me
> some detailed information or some good site to look at?
>
> 2.About the software, does Microsoft sell versions for educational
prupose
> at a lower price?
>
> 3.I am thinking to learn visual basic.net, asp.net, c++.net and some
C#.
> Anyone knows some real good books? ( I am pretty good at the old
things:
> C++,VB, Java, ASP and etc.)
>
> I appreciate your help.
> Cindy
>
>
> =3D=3D=3D
> Fast Track ADO.NET with C# is a concise introduction to the concepts,
techniques, and libraries that you will need in order to start using
ADO.NET
in your applications. The book covers DataSets and Typed DataSets,
accessing
data using DataReaders and DataAdaptors, the close relationship between
ADO.NET and XML, how and where to use ADO.NET in your enterprise
applications, and how to use Web Services and ADO.NET to easily pass
data
between applications.
> http://www.wrox.com/books/1861007604.htm
>

=3D=3D=3D
Fast Track ADO.NET with C# is a concise introduction to the concepts,
techniques, and libraries that you will need in order to start using
ADO.NET in your applications. The book covers DataSets and Typed
DataSets, accessing data using DataReaders and DataAdaptors, the close
relationship between ADO.NET and XML, how and where to use ADO.NET in
your enterprise applications, and how to use Web Services and ADO.NET to
easily pass data between applications.
http://www.wrox.com/books/1861007604.htm

If don't already have your tools lined up, provantage.com sells an 
academic version of visual studio.net

"Visual Studio.NET v2002 PROFESSIONAL AE" $76.16

good luck,
Bill