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asp_components thread: What email system does wrox use?
Message #1 by dont worry <aspmailbox@y...> on Wed, 18 Oct 2000 13:08:23 -0700 (PDT)
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I've beening doing research on the following.
<Business>I have to send out hundreds of email any
hour, then a lump of thousands on the weekend. I need
a solution that will handle this. Looking into
www.aspeamil.com (Queneing Component) and post.office
from www.software.com.
</Business>
<Questions>
<a>What email system does the wrox use to sending out
to its members?</a>
<b>Any other suggestions?</b>
</Questions>
Thanks
Message #2 by "Ken Schaefer" <ken@a...> on Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:12:57 +1000
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You could use email listserver software.
Popular makes on WinNT are:
a) Lyris (what Wrox uses) http://www.lyris.com
b) Listserv - http://www.lsoft.com
These are purpose built for sending large amounts of email to subscribers,
plus you get the added management features, such as automatic removal of
dead email addresses, moderation etc
Cheers
Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "dont worry" <aspmailbox@y...>
To: "ASP components" <asp_components@p...>
Cc: "How To" <proasp_howto@p...>
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 6:08 AM
Subject: [asp_components] What email system does wrox use?
> I've beening doing research on the following.
> <Business>I have to send out hundreds of email any
> hour, then a lump of thousands on the weekend. I need
> a solution that will handle this. Looking into
> www.aspeamil.com (Queneing Component) and post.office
> from www.software.com.
> </Business>
> <Questions>
> <a>What email system does the wrox use to sending out
> to its members?</a>
> <b>Any other suggestions?</b>
> </Questions>
> Thanks
>
>
Message #3 by "Daniel Walker" <danielw@w...> on Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:17:15 +0100
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For passive mass-sendouts (I mean, where you're not actually recieving
mail to redistribute, as in a listserver like this) Lyris probably
provides _far_ too much fuctionality. Also, to scale up to the levels
you're talking about, you're moving otside the evaluation-copy market and
into the area where you actually start having to spend a _lot_ of cash.
TANSTAAFL. Even Enterprise Edition copies of ASPQMail, from ServerObjects
Incorp., are in the $5000 region. Persits have a component called ASPEmail
whose heavyweight license copy costs $300. Your best bet is get in touch
with these companies and put it to them what you intend to do: ask them
for an honest appraisal of whether their baby will do the work.
This is not an easy topic. Don't be fooled into thinking that a system
that meets your baseline requirements will be good enough for you.
Bounce-mail from dead e-mail addresses and other missed messages can
tie-up a listserver _very_ quickly. For instance, few weeks ago Yahoo's US
network went down and listservers around the world ground to a complete
halt: our own was queueing messages so far back that it would take 9-12
hours for a message on Beginning ASP to complete its send. Even the
digests were taking 8-9 hours to get out each morning. You have to have
some contingency capacity for such events, as well as some way of
practicing good hygene on the list of addresses you're sending to so that
you can kill-off any bouncers.
It might be in your interests to read up on mass-mail and
message-queueing, if you're to have any chance of getting past the solid
wall of Marketroids that a lot of these companies surround themselves
with. You need to talk to someone who actually knows what they're talking
about and has a Cluetrain mentality... and doesn't just talk BiCap-jargon
at you and thinks "action phrases" will save the world.
Daniel Walker
> You could use email listserver software.
> Popular makes on WinNT are:
> a) Lyris (what Wrox uses) http://www.lyris.com
> b) Listserv - http://www.lsoft.com
>
> These are purpose built for sending large amounts of email to subscribers,
> plus you get the added management features, such as automatic removal of
> dead email addresses, moderation etc
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dont worry" <aspmailbox@y...>
> To: "ASP components" <asp_components@p...>
> Cc: "How To" <proasp_howto@p...>
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 6:08 AM
> Subject: [asp_components] What email system does wrox use?
>
>
> > I've beening doing research on the following.
> > <Business>I have to send out hundreds of email any
> > hour, then a lump of thousands on the weekend. I need
> > a solution that will handle this. Looking into
> > www.aspeamil.com (Queneing Component) and post.office
> > from www.software.com.
> > </Business>
> > <Questions>
> > <a>What email system does the wrox use to sending out
> > to its members?</a>
> > <b>Any other suggestions?</b>
> > </Questions>
> > Thanks
> >
> >
Message #4 by =?Windows-1252?Q?Jenz_R=F6nnow?= <jenz@c...> on Thu, 19 Oct 2000 08:55:59 +0200
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Im using Post.Office and I like it a lot.
I would recommend it...
/Jenz, System Developer
-----Original Message-----
From: dont worry [mailto:aspmailbox@y...]
Sent: den 18 oktober 2000 22:08
To: ASP components
Cc: How To
Subject: [asp_components] What email system does wrox use?
I've beening doing research on the following.
<Business>I have to send out hundreds of email any
hour, then a lump of thousands on the weekend. I need
a solution that will handle this. Looking into
www.aspeamil.com (Queneing Component) and post.office
from www.software.com.
</Business>
<Questions>
<a>What email system does the wrox use to sending out
to its members?</a>
<b>Any other suggestions?</b>
</Questions>
Thanks
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