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asp_web_howto thread: WSH
Message #1 by marthaj@r... on Sat, 29 Sep 2001 14:18:53
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Hi Folks,
I have looked in BOL and can not find what I need to know about WSH.
THis is what I want to do, Download file and have Ms-word or just the
viewer popup with the file in the browser window for the client. I am
uncertain how to tie this all together. I know with the download i can
change the content type etc, and I know I have to create an instance of
wsh, but that's as far as I get.
Any help appericated,
thanks so very much
marthaj@r...
Message #2 by "Daniel O'Dorisio" <dodorisio@h...> on Sat, 29 Sep 2001 10:42:30 -0400
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Under normal circumstances the word viewer should automatically pop up
if it is configured properly. By just clicking a link to a word dos
(*.doc) I don't think this works in NS, and it dosnt work on a system
without word installed.
But afaik wsh can not be used on the client unless there is a security
hole, or the application resides on that system (*.hta) if this is in an
intranet enviroment, then you should be able to create a custom object
that could do this for you and have it installed on all the systems.
Then use clientside vbscript to access that object.
Hth
daniel
-----Original Message-----
From: marthaj@r... [mailto:marthaj@r...]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 2:19 PM
To: ASP Web HowTo
Subject: [asp_web_howto] WSH
Hi Folks,
I have looked in BOL and can not find what I need to know about WSH.
THis is what I want to do, Download file and have Ms-word or just the
viewer popup with the file in the browser window for the client. I am
uncertain how to tie this all together. I know with the download i can
change the content type etc, and I know I have to create an instance of
wsh, but that's as far as I get.
Any help appericated,
thanks so very much
marthaj@r...
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Message #3 by "Martha J. Sayers, A.A.B." <marthaj@r...> on Sat, 29 Sep 2001 14:31:34 -0700
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thank you responding. here's what I am trying to achieve. I have created
mailing labels, from the users request from the sql db. It displays great on
the brower, but when they go to print it does the natural thing for laser
printer...CREEP...CREEP...CREEP.
So by the end of the page, it's off.
I don't know exactly how to resolve it, but any suggestions would help alot.
thank you so very much,
marthaj
Message #4 by "Daniel O'Dorisio" <dodorisio@h...> on Sat, 29 Sep 2001 15:46:40 -0400
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I did a similar thing but I had the server print the labels. So the
server generated them in word, and then printed them to a shared
copier/printer. But that wasn't good enough for some of the lazy people
:-) so I created a com object that accessed the win registry and changed
the current system default printer to one the the user had selected. It
works. I don't know how good it would work under a heavy load, but this
was for a small office (50 systems)
If you redirected them to the .doc file, they should be allright. Is
this in an intranet enviroment? We don't have very many computer
literate people (had to teach how to use the web and email) so I wanted
it as easy as possible, (keep them on a web wizard style page) so that
is why I chose that route. But I would imagine that if all the systems
were running IE and had ms word or word viewer on them, when you
redirected them to the other doc file it should pop up either in a
separate window or in the emedded word. Worst case they would have to
select "Open file from current location" (or click open on ie 6) and it
would open it.
Anyway. Anyone else have any ideas??
daniel
-----Original Message-----
From: Martha J. Sayers, A.A.B. [mailto:marthaj@r...]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 5:32 PM
To: ASP Web HowTo
Subject: [asp_web_howto] RE: WSH
thank you responding. here's what I am trying to achieve. I have created
mailing labels, from the users request from the sql db. It displays
great on the brower, but when they go to print it does the natural thing
for laser printer...CREEP...CREEP...CREEP. So by the end of the page,
it's off. I don't know exactly how to resolve it, but any suggestions
would help alot. thank you so very much, marthaj
Message #5 by "Martha J. Sayers, A.A.B." <marthaj@r...> on Sat, 29 Sep 2001 18:15:22 -0700
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Daniel,
Thank you for responding. As stupid as this is going to sound, how would I
create the msword.doc on the server (since the information will vary and is
extracted from the sql db. )?? I am pretty weak on com objects, can you
point me a good direction ??
It's an internet app, so the traffic could be heavy. But for now, I just
want to figure how to rewrite it so it works and prints correctly. The
current labels are written in vbscript using html table commands etc.
thank you so very much,
marthaj
Message #6 by "Daniel O'Dorisio" <dodorisio@h...> on Sat, 29 Sep 2001 20:10:09 -0400
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Hmm ok I was thinking you were doing something a little different. Since
you mentioned ms word at the start.
For an internet application, something that would work really good is
crystal reports, ive heard a lot of good things about it, but never have
had chance to try it (im 16 so my personal budget is kinda small and I
work at a small company) but, here is something you might want to try.
If all your labels are kinda standard, then you can create a mail merge
document with the data source as either a csv file, or a table that is
empty (filled at run time) then when the user selects the criteria for
the records (I build a little javascript sql builder, let me know if it
would help ya any, it isnt really designed to be used by anyone for
anything, but it may help) it will populate either that table, or the
csv file (removing any entries in the table, or overwriting the current
csv) and then you create an instance of ms word (I used vb com to do all
this since it would be faster) on the server and open the mail merge
documant and call the merge method(or whatever it is called). Then you
can save the new document to a folder (reports or whatever) and redirect
the user to that report, they will be prompted to download the file, or
it will open in word.
Another approach would be to use ms access, this is something I allmost
did, but word was too easy and fitted fine for my application. You can
use access to administer a sql backend, I think it is called access data
projects. Anyway, do that to your db, and then in your asp or com
object, you can (I think) generate a report in access on a query, and
change that query at run time. Open that report, but then you would have
to make it something that would be readable by the end user, so maybe
pdf would help. Either that or send it to word (which kinda defeats
access)
Either way these options would probally be kinda slow.
Are you sure the table problem (creeping) isnt just a printer driver
thing? Cause I have had that happen to me in word as well.
About com objects. They are just activex dll's (or exe's) that contain
code that can be called form an asp. ADO is a com object, CDONTS is a
com object, the FSO is a com object. I can send you that code as well,
if that will help. And this may not be the most accurate explination of
com, I never have had any real training on anything computer. Just kinda
messed arround with a lot.
hth
Daniel
Daniel O'Dorisio
daniel@o...
www.odorisio-networks.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Martha J. Sayers, A.A.B. [mailto:marthaj@r...]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 9:15 PM
To: ASP Web HowTo
Subject: [asp_web_howto] RE: WSH
Daniel,
Thank you for responding. As stupid as this is going to sound, how
would I create the msword.doc on the server (since the information will
vary and is extracted from the sql db. )?? I am pretty weak on com
objects, can you point me a good direction ?? It's an internet app, so
the traffic could be heavy. But for now, I just want to figure how to
rewrite it so it works and prints correctly. The current labels are
written in vbscript using html table commands etc. thank you so very
much, marthaj
Message #7 by "Martha J. Sayers, A.A.B." <marthaj@r...> on Sun, 30 Sep 2001 08:56:59 -0700
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Daniel,
Thank you for responding. Crystal Reports are a great product, used it
quite a bit over the years in R:Base and VB etc. They have a version just
for internet printing, but whne I talked to them about cost , the quote was
unreal and prohibitive.And I feel kinda stupid because I do use com objects,
I was used to making my own dll's etc and exe's. Guess I never stop to think
about it. And isn't that stupid since I use ado for connections and fso for
uploading and downloading !!!
Could you send me the code ?? I would appericate it. I guess what stumps me
is how, and I don't know how to express this, is how do I creat the word doc
on the server to begin with ?? I mean, what does have to be on the web
server ?? I can create a cvs file and I understand about the datasource on
the document, I just can not picture how I create the doc on server and tie
into it, what needs to be loaded on the server.
I can require the users to have atleast the MsWord Viewer on their
machines.It's a freeie from ms anyhow.
Creeping is a common thing on the laser printers, it's usually caused by
the printer and lines on report not matching. I have always set, physically,
to 58 lines.60 max.
I know people do this all the time, and I aim to laearn how to do it too !!
thank you again so much
marthaj@r...
Message #8 by "Daniel O'Dorisio" <dodorisio@h...> on Sun, 30 Sep 2001 13:39:25 -0400
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Martha,
Ill send all the code I used to you tomorrow afternoon. It is all up at
the office so ill have to get it when I go in after school.
Creating the word doc on the server is very simple, easier then you
think. What you do is create a mail merge main document (the layout with
the datasource. I created the layout and used a csv file as a
datasource. Then you use the com object (custom) to fill the csv with
the information for that report. Then you open word on the server
(server.createobject, or set objword = new word.application) and open
that mail merge document. Then call the merge to new document method,
and you will get a new document, make sure that is the activedocument.
And then save it as a unique name. Then once this is completed. You can
redirect the user to that word document, and they will be presented to
download it.
I hope this is clear, ill comment my code better, and send you the word
doc, as well as a sample data source.
One warning about this, it dosnt scale well, word is SLOW! So you will
have to do some heavy testing. I would use the microsoft web test
utility to simulate many connections and test it all out. Try to break
it:-)
Daniel
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Daniel O'Dorisio
daniel@o...
www.odorisio-networks.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Martha J. Sayers, A.A.B. [mailto:marthaj@r...]
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 11:57 AM
To: ASP Web HowTo
Subject: [asp_web_howto] RE: WSH
Daniel,
Thank you for responding. Crystal Reports are a great product, used it
quite a bit over the years in R:Base and VB etc. They have a version
just for internet printing, but whne I talked to them about cost , the
quote was unreal and prohibitive.And I feel kinda stupid because I do
use com objects, I was used to making my own dll's etc and exe's. Guess
I never stop to think about it. And isn't that stupid since I use ado
for connections and fso for uploading and downloading !!! Could you send
me the code ?? I would appericate it. I guess what stumps me is how, and
I don't know how to express this, is how do I creat the word doc on the
server to begin with ?? I mean, what does have to be on the web server
?? I can create a cvs file and I understand about the datasource on the
document, I just can not picture how I create the doc on server and tie
into it, what needs to be loaded on the server. I can require the users
to have atleast the MsWord Viewer on their machines.It's a freeie from
ms anyhow.
Creeping is a common thing on the laser printers, it's usually caused
by the printer and lines on report not matching. I have always set,
physically, to 58 lines.60 max. I know people do this all the time, and
I aim to laearn how to do it too !! thank you again so much
marthaj@r...
Message #9 by "Martha J. Sayers, A.A.B." <marthaj@r...> on Sun, 30 Sep 2001 16:32:47 -0700
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Daniel,
Thank you, I will be waiting for the code. And thank you again for all you
help and taking the time to response. I be in touch..
:-)
marthaj
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