Thanks Nicolai for backing me on the Netscape 6 issue.  I didn't realize

anything more had to be said than "Netscape 6 is just aweful."  I would tell

people to download it and try it themselves, but even I'm not that cruel.

It doesn't even support DHTML- not at all!  Hopefully this release will pull

them out of the game forever...



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Subject: Opening a Word Template from my aspx page

From: "Mike Baril" <mbaril88@h...>

Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:43:36 EST

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Hello,

   I am wondering if there is a way to open up and fill in a word template

from my aspx page?  any ideas, please let me know, or if you could point me

in the direction of some examples that would be great.

Thanks in advance



Mike Baril



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Subject: RE: aspx digest: November 17, 2000

From: "Brian Gerby" <brian.gerby@e...>

Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 19:05:17 -0500

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Netscape 6 is just awful.





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Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:23:01 -0000

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> Netscape 6 is just awful.



Is it realy? Have you downloaded it yet, or shall I get in touch with

Netscape, and let their lawyers sue us over that assertion?



<Please do not feed the troll./>

Daniel Walker

Wrox Press



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Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:27:01 +0100

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Hehe, I installed it, tried it, deleted it and reinstalled my system. Not

only is it awful, it even has problems with basic HTML.

In my opinion this is the worst release of netscape so far.



Regards

Nicolai Sørensen

Jubii A/S  - Programmer

http://www.jubii.dk



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Sent: 18. november 2000 01:23

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Subject: [aspx] RE: aspx digest: November 17, 2000





> Netscape 6 is just awful.



Is it realy? Have you downloaded it yet, or shall I get in touch with

Netscape, and let their lawyers sue us over that assertion?



<Please do not feed the troll./>

Daniel Walker

Wrox Press









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Not that I am pro or con Netscape, just a poor developer constantly

struggling to write compatable code for IE, NS and my personal favorite IE

for Mac.  However, to avoid confusion, NS 6 does support DHTML... They

have finally dropped their whole proprietary view of the Document Object

Model and this has caused some recoding of some legacy code in web sites. 

Of course the sites most affected are those DHTML reliant sites that treat

all Netscape browsers the same....



Netscape does hold (generally) to the DOM level 1 and now IE 5 and up as

well as NS 6 and up will treat the DOM relatively the same (our at least

they should).  This is a major step forward, not backwards for NS and we

should be a "little" supportive of this move.  They only thing I find

unacceptable is lack of depricated support for NS old object model.  This

is the primary reason I will not be recommending the use of the browser

until web developers universally understand and use the DOM level 1; as

most users will only find frustration with some sites.



On a final note: beware of the type of detection you use for client

browser.  I ran into a page on Friday that was using a detection that

returned the full version number of a browser and compared it as a number

to determine the DHTML code for writing to a <DIV> (something like if

browserObject.version >= 5...).  When folks at NS gave their browser a

version they put a "b" in the version number thus imparing it from a

numeric conversion.  This results in an error that halts the page

rendering.



With the better stat sites reporting a less than 20% use of NS a month

ago, it doesn't suprise me that NS made a radical move.  It has a some

great user interface capabilities but it will likely be too little too

late...