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aspx thread: 98/pws and the beta
Message #1 by "Mike Morris" <mike@v...> on Sat, 2 Dec 2000 23:18:10 +0800
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hello there
can anyone help?
i have installed the beta on a non production machine at work and it works
fine running on 2000 server
however at home i'm running win98 SE and PWS....
their seems to be a problem with the server controls...
i will be formatting soon and putting 2000 server on instead however i
havent a day off for a while and would still like to do some practice on
this new cool stuff
is anyone aware of this problem with 98? if so is there a fix?
thanks
mike
--
Vivid Interactive and Design
127 Hill Street East Perth
Western Australia 6004
Phone +xxx xxxx xxxx
Facsimile +xxx xxxx xxxx
Web http://www.vivid-design.com.au
_________________________________
Message #2 by danielw@w... on Sat, 2 Dec 2000 18:15:39 -0000
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The Beta 1 won't run on a Windows 98 box, I'm afraid, Mike. Only Nt4 and
the various flavours of Win2K will support it.
Daniel Walker
> hello there
>
> can anyone help?
>
> i have installed the beta on a non production machine at work and it works
> fine running on 2000 server
> however at home i'm running win98 SE and PWS....
> their seems to be a problem with the server controls...
> i will be formatting soon and putting 2000 server on instead however i
> havent a day off for a while and would still like to do some practice on
> this new cool stuff
>
> is anyone aware of this problem with 98? if so is there a fix?
>
> thanks
>
> mike
>
>
>
> --
> Vivid Interactive and Design
> 127 Hill Street East Perth
> Western Australia 6004
> Phone +xxx xxxx xxxx
> Facsimile +xxx xxxx xxxx
> Web http://www.vivid-design.com.au
> _________________________________
Message #3 by "Simon Edwards" <sedwards@f...> on Sat, 2 Dec 2000 18:33:09 -0000
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where can i get beta1 from without subscribing to msdn ??
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Morris [mailto:mike@v...]
Sent: 02 December 2000 15:18
To: ASP+
Subject: [aspx] 98/pws and the beta
hello there
can anyone help?
i have installed the beta on a non production machine at work and it works
fine running on 2000 server
however at home i'm running win98 SE and PWS....
their seems to be a problem with the server controls...
i will be formatting soon and putting 2000 server on instead however i
havent a day off for a while and would still like to do some practice on
this new cool stuff
is anyone aware of this problem with 98? if so is there a fix?
thanks
mike
--
Vivid Interactive and Design
127 Hill Street East Perth
Western Australia 6004
Phone +xxx xxxx xxxx
Facsimile +xxx xxxx xxxx
Web http://www.vivid-design.com.au
_________________________________
Message #4 by Imar Spaanjaars <Imar@S...> on Sat, 02 Dec 2000 20:10:09 +0100
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Try the following URL (it might wrap)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/default.asp?URL=/code/sample.asp?url=/msdn-files/027/000/976/msdncompositedoc.xml
or go to http://www.asp.net
HtH
Imar
P.s. The .NET beta's are available for everyone, even without an MSDN
subscription. Only for the Visual Studio Beta you need a subscription to be
able to download it. Otherwise, you can order it on CD.
At 06:33 PM 12/2/2000 +0000, you wrote:
>where can i get beta1 from without subscribing to msdn ??
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Morris [mailto:mike@v...]
>Sent: 02 December 2000 15:18
>To: ASP+
>Subject: [aspx] 98/pws and the beta
>
>
>hello there
>
>can anyone help?
>
>i have installed the beta on a non production machine at work and it works
>fine running on 2000 server
>however at home i'm running win98 SE and PWS....
>their seems to be a problem with the server controls...
>i will be formatting soon and putting 2000 server on instead however i
>havent a day off for a while and would still like to do some practice on
>this new cool stuff
>
>is anyone aware of this problem with 98? if so is there a fix?
>
>thanks
>
>mike
>
>
>
>--
>Vivid Interactive and Design
>127 Hill Street East Perth
>Western Australia 6004
>Phone +xxx xxxx xxxx
>Facsimile +xxx xxxx xxxx
>Web http://www.vivid-design.com.au
>_________________________________
>
Message #5 by "Mike Morris" <mike@v...> on Sun, 3 Dec 2000 16:56:32 +0800
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thats alright.. thanks for your help anyway
mike
Vivid Interactive and Design
127 Hill Street East Perth
Western Australia 6004
Phone +xxx xxxx xxxx
Facsimile +xxx xxxx xxxx
Web http://www.vivid-design.com.au
_________________________________
----- Original Message -----
From: <danielw@w...>
To: "ASP+" <aspx@p...>
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 2:15 AM
Subject: [aspx] Re: 98/pws and the beta
> The Beta 1 won't run on a Windows 98 box, I'm afraid, Mike. Only Nt4 and
> the various flavours of Win2K will support it.
>
> Daniel Walker
>
> > hello there
> >
> > can anyone help?
> >
> > i have installed the beta on a non production machine at work and it
works
> > fine running on 2000 server
> > however at home i'm running win98 SE and PWS....
> > their seems to be a problem with the server controls...
> > i will be formatting soon and putting 2000 server on instead however i
> > havent a day off for a while and would still like to do some practice on
> > this new cool stuff
> >
> > is anyone aware of this problem with 98? if so is there a fix?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > mike
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Vivid Interactive and Design
> > 127 Hill Street East Perth
> > Western Australia 6004
> > Phone +xxx xxxx xxxx
> > Facsimile +xxx xxxx xxxx
> > Web http://www.vivid-design.com.au
> > _________________________________
>
Message #6 by "Kukreja, Puneet" <kukrejap@a...> on Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:34:58 +1100
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MS WILL BE RELEASING A WIN 98 VERSION OF ITS ASP.NET TECH IF YOU GET TO KNOW
MORE ABOUT IT TELL ME TOOO....
CHEERS
Regards,
Puneet Kukreja
ANZ Banking Group.
Max - Intranet Centre
16/100 Queen Street
Melbourne, VICTORIA, 3000
www.anz.com
Phone :+xx x xxxxxxxx
Mobile : 0411461061
Fax :+xx x xxxx xxxx
Mailto:kukrejap@a...
Message #7 by "Juan T. Llibre" <j.llibre@c...> on Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:46:49 -0000
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re :
> The Beta 1 won't run on a Windows 98 box, I'm afraid, Mike. Only Nt4 and
> the various flavours of Win2K will support it.
> Daniel Walker
But...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/default.asp?URL=/code/sample.asp?url=/msdn-files/027/000/976/msdncompositedoc.xml
clearly states that the SDK runs on Windows 98 AND WinMe !!!
And at microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.sdk.setup
several reports state that asp.net DOES run on Win98.
regards,
Juan T. Llibre
----------------
> > i have installed the beta on a non production machine at work and it works
> > fine running on 2000 server
> > however at home i'm running win98 SE and PWS....
> > their seems to be a problem with the server controls...
> > i will be formatting soon and putting 2000 server on instead however i
> > havent a day off for a while and would still like to do some practice on
> > this new cool stuff
> >
> > is anyone aware of this problem with 98? if so is there a fix?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > mike
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Vivid Interactive and Design
> > 127 Hill Street East Perth
> > Western Australia 6004
> > Phone +xxx xxxx xxxx
> > Facsimile +xxx xxxx xxxx
> > Web http://www.vivid-design.com.au
> > _________________________________
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Message #8 by danielw@w... on Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:18:53 -0000
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So it does! And yet I could swear I've seen explicit declarations to the
contrary. Maybe they've changed their tune over this since the Beta 1 was
released? Or maybe I just wasn't paying attention :)?
Thanks, Juan! (Now, do I go home and put the beta on my home PC, _that's_ the question?)
Daniel Walker
Wrox Press
> re :
> > The Beta 1 won't run on a Windows 98 box, I'm afraid, Mike. Only Nt4 and
> > the various flavours of Win2K will support it.
> > Daniel Walker
>
>
> But...
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/default.asp?URL=/code/sample.asp?url=/msdn-files/027/000/976/msdncompositedoc.xml
>
>
> clearly states that the SDK runs on Windows 98 AND WinMe !!!
>
> And at microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.sdk.setup
> several reports state that asp.net DOES run on Win98.
>
>
> regards,
>
>
> Juan T. Llibre
>
> ----------------
> > > i have installed the beta on a non production machine at work and it works
> > > fine running on 2000 server
> > > however at home i'm running win98 SE and PWS....
> > > their seems to be a problem with the server controls...
> > > i will be formatting soon and putting 2000 server on instead however i
> > > havent a day off for a while and would still like to do some practice on
> > > this new cool stuff
> > >
> > > is anyone aware of this problem with 98? if so is there a fix?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Vivid Interactive and Design
> > > 127 Hill Street East Perth
> > > Western Australia 6004
> > > Phone +xxx xxxx xxxx
> > > Facsimile +xxx xxxx xxxx
> > > Web http://www.vivid-design.com.au
> > > _________________________________
>
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Message #9 by Susan Warren <swarren@m...> on Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:41:42 -0800
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Daniel,
Except for the server technology -- ASP.NET -- the .NET SDK *does* run on
Windows 98 and Windows ME. ASP.NET is the exception. You can, of course,
use W98/WME as your dev box, but you'll need to develop against a server
somewhere. Hope this clears up the confusion.
-- Susan
-----Original Message-----
From: danielw@w... [mailto:danielw@w...]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 10:19 AM
To: ASP+
Subject: [aspx] Re: 98/pws and the beta
So it does! And yet I could swear I've seen explicit declarations to the
contrary. Maybe they've changed their tune over this since the Beta 1 was
released? Or maybe I just wasn't paying attention :)?
Thanks, Juan! (Now, do I go home and put the beta on my home PC, _that's_
the question?)
Daniel Walker
Wrox Press
> re :
> > The Beta 1 won't run on a Windows 98 box, I'm afraid, Mike. Only Nt4 and
> > the various flavours of Win2K will support it.
> > Daniel Walker
>
>
> But...
>
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/default.asp?URL=/code/sample.asp?url=/ms
dn-files/027/000/976/msdncompositedoc.xml
>
>
> clearly states that the SDK runs on Windows 98 AND WinMe !!!
>
> And at microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.sdk.setup
> several reports state that asp.net DOES run on Win98.
>
>
> regards,
>
>
> Juan T. Llibre
>
> ----------------
> > > i have installed the beta on a non production machine at work and it
works
> > > fine running on 2000 server
> > > however at home i'm running win98 SE and PWS....
> > > their seems to be a problem with the server controls...
> > > i will be formatting soon and putting 2000 server on instead however i
> > > havent a day off for a while and would still like to do some practice
on
> > > this new cool stuff
> > >
> > > is anyone aware of this problem with 98? if so is there a fix?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Vivid Interactive and Design
> > > 127 Hill Street East Perth
> > > Western Australia 6004
> > > Phone +xxx xxxx xxxx
> > > Facsimile +xxx xxxx xxxx
> > > Web http://www.vivid-design.com.au
> > > _________________________________
>
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Message #10 by "Juan T. Llibre" <j.llibre@c...> on Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:19:29 -0500
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Thanks, Susan.
This is, still, somewhat confusing.
Which part of the SDK "runs" on Win98 and WinMe,
( which, as you know, run PWS ), if the ASP.NET
"server technology" doesn't run on them/it ?
The compilers ?
That's about all that's left, asides from the documentation.
If so, perhaps a note to that effect is in order.
When developers read that "the SDK runs on Windows 98 AND WinMe",
they expect that the "server technology" run on those OS's.
Otherwise, the MSDN reference should just mention the compilers.
Also, does SDK setup attempt to install ASP.NET on Win98 and/or WinMe ?
Will that have any negative effects on PWS and/or the OS's ?
( Since the "server technology" will not run, why install it ? )
Lastly: will Beta 2 support the "server technology" running on Win98/WinMe ?
Thanks for your comments...
Juan T. Llibre
Microsoft MVP [IIS/ASP]
ASP Resource : http://asptracker.com/
ASP en Espaņol : http://aspespanol.com/
==================================
----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Warren" <swarren@m...>
To: "ASP+" <aspx@p...>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:41 PM
Subject: [aspx] Re: 98/pws and the beta
> Daniel,
>
> Except for the server technology -- ASP.NET -- the .NET SDK *does* run on
> Windows 98 and Windows ME. ASP.NET is the exception. You can, of course,
> use W98/WME as your dev box, but you'll need to develop against a server
> somewhere. Hope this clears up the confusion.
> -- Susan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: danielw@w... [mailto:danielw@w...]
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 10:19 AM
> To: ASP+
> Subject: [aspx] Re: 98/pws and the beta
>
> So it does! And yet I could swear I've seen explicit declarations to the
> contrary. Maybe they've changed their tune over this since the Beta 1 was
> released? Or maybe I just wasn't paying attention :)?
>
> Thanks, Juan! (Now, do I go home and put the beta on my home PC, _that's_
> the question?)
>
> Daniel Walker
> Wrox Press
>
> > re :
> > > The Beta 1 won't run on a Windows 98 box, I'm afraid, Mike. Only Nt4
and
> > > the various flavours of Win2K will support it.
> > > Daniel Walker
> >
> >
> > But...
> >
> >
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/default.asp?URL=/code/sample.asp?url=/ms
> dn-files/027/000/976/msdncompositedoc.xml
> >
> >
> > clearly states that the SDK runs on Windows 98 AND WinMe !!!
> >
> > And at microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.sdk.setup
> > several reports state that asp.net DOES run on Win98.
> >
> >
> > regards,
> >
> >
> > Juan T. Llibre
> >
> > ----------------
> > > > i have installed the beta on a non production machine at work and it
> works
> > > > fine running on 2000 server
> > > > however at home i'm running win98 SE and PWS....
> > > > their seems to be a problem with the server controls...
> > > > i will be formatting soon and putting 2000 server on instead however
i
> > > > havent a day off for a while and would still like to do some
practice
> on
> > > > this new cool stuff
> > > >
> > > > is anyone aware of this problem with 98? if so is there a fix?
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > > mike
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Vivid Interactive and Design
> > > > 127 Hill Street East Perth
> > > > Western Australia 6004
> > > > Phone +xxx xxxx xxxx
> > > > Facsimile +xxx xxxx xxxx
> > > > Web http://www.vivid-design.com.au
> > > > _________________________________
> >
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Message #11 by Susan Warren <swarren@m...> on Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:34:09 -0800
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Specifically, PWS/personal web server is not a supported web server for
ASP.NET. You'll have to serve the pages up from a server box (WNT/W2K).
This is also the plan for the final release of this version. There's a lot
of other stuff in the SDK in addition to ASP.NET (Windows Forms, for
example) that you can both develop and run on a W98/WME box.
I can pass on your comments about the text you quote below -- we should
clarify it if we can. Can you please send me a little information on where
you saw it?
thanks,
Susan
-----Original Message-----
From: Juan T. Llibre [mailto:j.llibre@c...]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:19 PM
To: ASP+
Subject: [aspx] Re: 98/pws and the beta
Thanks, Susan.
This is, still, somewhat confusing.
Which part of the SDK "runs" on Win98 and WinMe,
( which, as you know, run PWS ), if the ASP.NET
"server technology" doesn't run on them/it ?
The compilers ?
That's about all that's left, asides from the documentation.
If so, perhaps a note to that effect is in order.
When developers read that "the SDK runs on Windows 98 AND WinMe",
they expect that the "server technology" run on those OS's.
Otherwise, the MSDN reference should just mention the compilers.
Also, does SDK setup attempt to install ASP.NET on Win98 and/or WinMe ?
Will that have any negative effects on PWS and/or the OS's ?
( Since the "server technology" will not run, why install it ? )
Lastly: will Beta 2 support the "server technology" running on Win98/WinMe ?
Thanks for your comments...
Juan T. Llibre
Microsoft MVP [IIS/ASP]
ASP Resource : http://asptracker.com/
ASP en Espaņol : http://aspespanol.com/
==================================
----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Warren" <swarren@m...>
To: "ASP+" <aspx@p...>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:41 PM
Subject: [aspx] Re: 98/pws and the beta
> Daniel,
>
> Except for the server technology -- ASP.NET -- the .NET SDK *does* run on
> Windows 98 and Windows ME. ASP.NET is the exception. You can, of course,
> use W98/WME as your dev box, but you'll need to develop against a server
> somewhere. Hope this clears up the confusion.
> -- Susan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: danielw@w... [mailto:danielw@w...]
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 10:19 AM
> To: ASP+
> Subject: [aspx] Re: 98/pws and the beta
>
> So it does! And yet I could swear I've seen explicit declarations to the
> contrary. Maybe they've changed their tune over this since the Beta 1 was
> released? Or maybe I just wasn't paying attention :)?
>
> Thanks, Juan! (Now, do I go home and put the beta on my home PC, _that's_
> the question?)
>
> Daniel Walker
> Wrox Press
>
> > re :
> > > The Beta 1 won't run on a Windows 98 box, I'm afraid, Mike. Only Nt4
and
> > > the various flavours of Win2K will support it.
> > > Daniel Walker
> >
> >
> > But...
> >
> >
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/default.asp?URL=/code/sample.asp?url=/ms
> dn-files/027/000/976/msdncompositedoc.xml
> >
> >
> > clearly states that the SDK runs on Windows 98 AND WinMe !!!
> >
> > And at microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.sdk.setup
> > several reports state that asp.net DOES run on Win98.
> >
> >
> > regards,
> >
> >
> > Juan T. Llibre
> >
> > ----------------
> > > > i have installed the beta on a non production machine at work and it
> works
> > > > fine running on 2000 server
> > > > however at home i'm running win98 SE and PWS....
> > > > their seems to be a problem with the server controls...
> > > > i will be formatting soon and putting 2000 server on instead however
i
> > > > havent a day off for a while and would still like to do some
practice
> on
> > > > this new cool stuff
> > > >
> > > > is anyone aware of this problem with 98? if so is there a fix?
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > > mike
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Vivid Interactive and Design
> > > > 127 Hill Street East Perth
> > > > Western Australia 6004
> > > > Phone +xxx xxxx xxxx
> > > > Facsimile +xxx xxxx xxxx
> > > > Web http://www.vivid-design.com.au
> > > > _________________________________
> >
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