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aspx thread: vbscript or javascript for the client in vb.net
Message #1 by "greg" <grobinson@d...> on Tue, 23 Apr 2002 01:59:28
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I would like to solicit opinions on the above subject. I am working on a
client site where this question comes up a lot and our client would like
to set a standard for web development using VB.NET. I have always used
java script on the client side. I am aware vb code behind files replace
vbscript on the server with .NET. But what about the client? My current
client makes a good argument in stating they do not want to have to teach
their developers 2 languges, vbscript and javascript, when in fact, if
they use vb.net for the code behind server code, vbscript should be fairly
straight forward on the client. I am hearing rumors the Microsoft will
not be supporting vbscript in the future. I cannot confirm this
rumor.
Opinions?
Message #2 by "Michael" <mlang@m...> on Tue, 23 Apr 2002 11:05:09 +1000
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I don't think the way you handle the client side has changed in ASP.NET.
It depends who you're targeting, if it is for the general public you'll need
to use Javascript client side.
If it is a intranet application you're building and you know all the clients
are MS boxes then you can use VBScript.
-----Original Message-----
From: greg [mailto:grobinson@d...]
Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2002 1:59 AM
To: ASP+
Subject: [aspx] vbscript or javascript for the client in vb.net
I would like to solicit opinions on the above subject. I am working on a
client site where this question comes up a lot and our client would like
to set a standard for web development using VB.NET. I have always used
java script on the client side. I am aware vb code behind files replace
vbscript on the server with .NET. But what about the client? My current
client makes a good argument in stating they do not want to have to teach
their developers 2 languges, vbscript and javascript, when in fact, if
they use vb.net for the code behind server code, vbscript should be fairly
straight forward on the client. I am hearing rumors the Microsoft will
not be supporting vbscript in the future. I cannot confirm this
rumor.
Opinions?
Message #3 by "Dogers" <dogers@t...> on Tue, 23 Apr 2002 02:21:48 +0100
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> I would like to solicit opinions on the above subject. I am
> working on a
> client site where this question comes up a lot and our client
> would like
> to set a standard for web development using VB.NET. I have
> always used
> java script on the client side. I am aware vb code behind
> files replace
> vbscript on the server with .NET. But what about the client?
> My current
> client makes a good argument in stating they do not want to
> have to teach
> their developers 2 languges, vbscript and javascript, when in
> fact, if
> they use vb.net for the code behind server code, vbscript
> should be fairly
> straight forward on the client. I am hearing rumors the
> Microsoft will
> not be supporting vbscript in the future. I cannot confirm this
> rumor.
Im not 100% sure on all this, but I believe that VBScript will only work
on MSIE..
Plus I wouldn't be surprised if MS phased out (or just plain did away
with) VBScript on the client, as very few sites use it, and even less
browsers support it!
--
Dogers
Message #4 by "greg" <grobinson@d...> on Tue, 23 Apr 2002 03:10:23
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I forgot to state my client supports IE 5.5 and this is for intranet web
development. So, with that in mind....keep sending the opinions!
> > I would like to solicit opinions on the above subject. I am
> working on a
> client site where this question comes up a lot and our client
> would like
> to set a standard for web development using VB.NET. I have
> always used
> java script on the client side. I am aware vb code behind
> files replace
> vbscript on the server with .NET. But what about the client?
> My current
> client makes a good argument in stating they do not want to
> have to teach
> their developers 2 languges, vbscript and javascript, when in
> fact, if
> they use vb.net for the code behind server code, vbscript
> should be fairly
> straight forward on the client. I am hearing rumors the
> Microsoft will
> not be supporting vbscript in the future. I cannot confirm this
> rumor.
Im not 100% sure on all this, but I believe that VBScript will only work
on MSIE..
Plus I wouldn't be surprised if MS phased out (or just plain did away
with) VBScript on the client, as very few sites use it, and even less
browsers support it!
--
Dogers
Message #5 by "Michael" <mlang@m...> on Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:00:45 +1000
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I would be *extremely* surprised if MS ceased supporting VBScript, I dont
think there's a chance of it.
If you're doing intranet development then feel free to use VBScript.
The only reasons I can think for using Javascript in your situation are:-
* So that the code produced is resuasable for internet projects.
* Resources for javascript will probably be greater. Whilst there's plenty
of VBScript programmers and sample VBScript around there's probably a whole
Javascript programmers and sample Javascript around.
Reasons for using VBScript:-
* I haven't really gotten into VBScript all that much but my impression is
that you have access to alot more system resources from within VBScript than
you do in Javascript
At the end of day which will you get the job done quicker with ?
In any case there's nothing stopping you from using both.
Oh of course that would mean having to know 3 languages.....
-----Original Message-----
From: greg [mailto:grobinson@d...]
Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2002 3:10 AM
To: ASP+
Subject: [aspx] RE: vbscript or javascript for the client in vb.net
I forgot to state my client supports IE 5.5 and this is for intranet web
development. So, with that in mind....keep sending the opinions!
> > I would like to solicit opinions on the above subject. I am
> working on a
> client site where this question comes up a lot and our client
> would like
> to set a standard for web development using VB.NET. I have
> always used
> java script on the client side. I am aware vb code behind
> files replace
> vbscript on the server with .NET. But what about the client?
> My current
> client makes a good argument in stating they do not want to
> have to teach
> their developers 2 languges, vbscript and javascript, when in
> fact, if
> they use vb.net for the code behind server code, vbscript
> should be fairly
> straight forward on the client. I am hearing rumors the
> Microsoft will
> not be supporting vbscript in the future. I cannot confirm this
> rumor.
Im not 100% sure on all this, but I believe that VBScript will only work
on MSIE..
Plus I wouldn't be surprised if MS phased out (or just plain did away
with) VBScript on the client, as very few sites use it, and even less
browsers support it!
--
Dogers
Message #6 by "Joe Fawcett" <joefawcett@h...> on Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:59:30 +0100
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Well if you use VBScript you are limiting yourself to IE, that is the major
down-side. The only downside the other way is if you have someone who is a
whiz at VB.Net but cannot cope with JavaScript.
Joe
>From: "greg" <grobinson@d...>
>Reply-To: "ASP+" <aspx@p...>
>To: "ASP+" <aspx@p...>
>Subject: [aspx] vbscript or javascript for the client in vb.net
>Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 01:59:28
>
>I would like to solicit opinions on the above subject. I am working on a
>client site where this question comes up a lot and our client would like
>to set a standard for web development using VB.NET. I have always used
>java script on the client side. I am aware vb code behind files replace
>vbscript on the server with .NET. But what about the client? My current
>client makes a good argument in stating they do not want to have to teach
>their developers 2 languges, vbscript and javascript, when in fact, if
>they use vb.net for the code behind server code, vbscript should be fairly
>straight forward on the client. I am hearing rumors the Microsoft will
>not be supporting vbscript in the future. I cannot confirm this
>rumor.
>
>Opinions?
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Message #7 by "Joe Fawcett" <joefawcett@h...> on Tue, 23 Apr 2002 20:31:23 +0100
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In my opinion VBScript has these advantages over JavaScript:
1) Ability to pass by reference.
2) Own methods of input/output. MsgBox and InputBox.
3) Support for missing arguments in function calls.
Other than that, and (2) is not much advantage in web pages because the
window object provides reasonable substitutes, it's a much better object
orientated language.
Apparently Microsoft are not going to release another version of either
VBScript or JScript, save of course for promoting JScript.net which will not
be available for use client-side in web pages for some time on a practical
basis.
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael" <mlang@m...>
To: "ASP+" <aspx@p...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:00 AM
Subject: [aspx] RE: vbscript or javascript for the client in vb.net
> I would be *extremely* surprised if MS ceased supporting VBScript, I dont
> think there's a chance of it.
>
> If you're doing intranet development then feel free to use VBScript.
> The only reasons I can think for using Javascript in your situation are:-
>
> * So that the code produced is resuasable for internet projects.
> * Resources for javascript will probably be greater. Whilst there's
plenty
> of VBScript programmers and sample VBScript around there's probably a
whole
> Javascript programmers and sample Javascript around.
>
> Reasons for using VBScript:-
> * I haven't really gotten into VBScript all that much but my impression is
> that you have access to alot more system resources from within VBScript
than
> you do in Javascript
>
> At the end of day which will you get the job done quicker with ?
> In any case there's nothing stopping you from using both.
> Oh of course that would mean having to know 3 languages.....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: greg [mailto:grobinson@d...]
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2002 3:10 AM
> To: ASP+
> Subject: [aspx] RE: vbscript or javascript for the client in vb.net
>
>
> I forgot to state my client supports IE 5.5 and this is for intranet web
> development. So, with that in mind....keep sending the opinions!
>
> > > I would like to solicit opinions on the above subject. I am
> > working on a
> > client site where this question comes up a lot and our client
> > would like
> > to set a standard for web development using VB.NET. I have
> > always used
> > java script on the client side. I am aware vb code behind
> > files replace
> > vbscript on the server with .NET. But what about the client?
> > My current
> > client makes a good argument in stating they do not want to
> > have to teach
> > their developers 2 languges, vbscript and javascript, when in
> > fact, if
> > they use vb.net for the code behind server code, vbscript
> > should be fairly
> > straight forward on the client. I am hearing rumors the
> > Microsoft will
> > not be supporting vbscript in the future. I cannot confirm this
> > rumor.
>
> Im not 100% sure on all this, but I believe that VBScript will only work
> on MSIE..
> Plus I wouldn't be surprised if MS phased out (or just plain did away
> with) VBScript on the client, as very few sites use it, and even less
> browsers support it!
> --
> Dogers
>
>
>
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