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Message #1 by "Lists, IT" <ITLists@l...> on Tue, 4 Jun 2002 09:44:21 -0700
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At my company, we are trying to get our heads around the whole new universe
of .NET. I've had much experience doing ASP development (as well as PHP and
Perl) so I feel like I know my way around web development.

My curiosity is this, do you think it makes sense to consider an Intranet as
a .NET application? We have Visual Studio .NET available to us and wish to
start using it to develop projects. Our Intranet is basically a bunch of
different company related information pages, a few applications, etc. The
usual.

Can anyone give me advice, experientially or otherwise? Thanks!

Wells Oliver
Web Application Programmer
Leviton Voice & Data
xxx-xxx-xxxx
http://www.levitonvoicedata.com 

Message #2 by "Dan K" <dkomo@s...> on Tue, 4 Jun 2002 12:43:11 -0500
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If your application is going to have functionality (i.e. gathering data
from a database, adding/modifying records, and computations) then yes,
definitely create an ASP.NET application and make use of its advantages.
If there are multiple sources (companies) exchanging data, look at using
ASP.NET Web Services and XML. 
 
Just by doing simple projects (htm, single web forms) you can gain an
understanding of the .NET framework.
 
Dan
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Lists, IT [mailto:ITLists@l...] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:44 AM
To: ASP+
Subject: [aspx] Intranet as .NET application?
 
At my company, we are trying to get our heads around the whole new
universe 
of .NET. I've had much experience doing ASP development (as well as PHP
and 
Perl) so I feel like I know my way around web development. 
My curiosity is this, do you think it makes sense to consider an
Intranet as 
a .NET application? We have Visual Studio .NET available to us and wish
to 
start using it to develop projects. Our Intranet is basically a bunch of

different company related information pages, a few applications, etc.
The 
usual. 
Can anyone give me advice, experientially or otherwise? Thanks! 
Wells Oliver 
Web Application Programmer 
Leviton Voice & Data 
xxx-xxx-xxxx 
http://www.levitonvoicedata.com 
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Message #3 by Feduke Cntr Charles R <FedukeCR@m...> on Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:45:59 -0400
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    I think developing an ASP.NET application for an intranet site is a
pretty good way to go about learning how to use ASP.NET.  I've done alot of
ASP and Perl in the past, and let me tell you - ASP.NET is nothing like it.
Its all event-based (pseudo-event based using hidden inputs) and flows
really nice (until you start mixing events with standard Response.Form and
Response.QueryString code, in which case it ceases working altogether).
 
    Also the fact that its not a very mature product means that keeping your
site secure on a corporate intranet means less chance of a compromise.
Anyone who implements an Internet-accessible application with ASP.NET before
2004 with sensitive (or higher) data is crazy, as proven time and time again
by the number of security exploits that exist for IIS.
 
- Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: Lists, IT [mailto:ITLists@l...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:44 PM
To: ASP+
Subject: [aspx] Intranet as .NET application?



At my company, we are trying to get our heads around the whole new universe 
of .NET. I've had much experience doing ASP development (as well as PHP and 
Perl) so I feel like I know my way around web development. 

My curiosity is this, do you think it makes sense to consider an Intranet as

a .NET application? We have Visual Studio .NET available to us and wish to 
start using it to develop projects. Our Intranet is basically a bunch of 
different company related information pages, a few applications, etc. The 
usual. 

Can anyone give me advice, experientially or otherwise? Thanks! 

Wells Oliver 
Web Application Programmer 
Leviton Voice & Data 
xxx-xxx-xxxx 
http://www.levitonvoicedata.com <http://www.levitonvoicedata.com>  

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Message #4 by "Lists, IT" <ITLists@l...> on Tue, 4 Jun 2002 11:04:58 -0700
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Right, but what I am considering is developing the Intranet _as_ the .NET
application. That is, open a new VS.NET project for our company Intranet. Do
you feel that that makes sense? Our Intranet is still rather developmental
and such, so there's no mission critical things as of yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: Feduke Cntr Charles R [mailto:FedukeCR@m...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:46 AM
To: ASP+
Subject: [aspx] RE: Intranet as .NET application?


    I think developing an ASP.NET application for an intranet site is a
pretty good way to go about learning how to use ASP.NET.  I've done alot of
ASP and Perl in the past, and let me tell you - ASP.NET is nothing like it.
Its all event-based (pseudo-event based using hidden inputs) and flows
really nice (until you start mixing events with standard Response.Form and
Response.QueryString code, in which case it ceases working altogether).
 
    Also the fact that its not a very mature product means that keeping your
site secure on a corporate intranet means less chance of a compromise.
Anyone who implements an Internet-accessible application with ASP.NET before
2004 with sensitive (or higher) data is crazy, as proven time and time again
by the number of security exploits that exist for IIS.
 
- Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: Lists, IT [mailto:ITLists@l...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:44 PM
To: ASP+
Subject: [aspx] Intranet as .NET application?



At my company, we are trying to get our heads around the whole new universe 
of .NET. I've had much experience doing ASP development (as well as PHP and 
Perl) so I feel like I know my way around web development. 

My curiosity is this, do you think it makes sense to consider an Intranet as

a .NET application? We have Visual Studio .NET available to us and wish to 
start using it to develop projects. Our Intranet is basically a bunch of 
different company related information pages, a few applications, etc. The 
usual. 

Can anyone give me advice, experientially or otherwise? Thanks! 

Wells Oliver 
Web Application Programmer 
Leviton Voice & Data 
xxx-xxx-xxxx 
http://www.levitonvoicedata.com <http://www.levitonvoicedata.com>  

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Message #5 by Feduke Cntr Charles R <FedukeCR@m...> on Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:22:12 -0400
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    Yeah, this makes sense if you're talking about making a company intranet
web site with access to resources (i.e. time sheets, leave forms, links to
your shoutcast servers that run internally, application installations, etc
etc).  You can do a lot of stuff much easier using ASP.NET and .NET than you
could with ASP.  But if you're talking about literally making a intranet
with .NET, well, when you figure out how to get Microsoft .NET to make CAT5
cables, properly put RJ-45 heads on them, stand up your domain controllers,
configure your routers and plug in your switches and hubs, and man the help
desk, please be sure to let us know!
 
- Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: Lists, IT [mailto:ITLists@l...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:05 PM
To: ASP+
Subject: [aspx] RE: Intranet as .NET application?


Right, but what I am considering is developing the Intranet _as_ the .NET
application. That is, open a new VS.NET project for our company Intranet. Do
you feel that that makes sense? Our Intranet is still rather developmental
and such, so there's no mission critical things as of yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: Feduke Cntr Charles R [mailto:FedukeCR@m...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:46 AM
To: ASP+
Subject: [aspx] RE: Intranet as .NET application?


    I think developing an ASP.NET application for an intranet site is a
pretty good way to go about learning how to use ASP.NET.  I've done alot of
ASP and Perl in the past, and let me tell you - ASP.NET is nothing like it.
Its all event-based (pseudo-event based using hidden inputs) and flows
really nice (until you start mixing events with standard Response.Form and
Response.QueryString code, in which case it ceases working altogether).
 
    Also the fact that its not a very mature product means that keeping your
site secure on a corporate intranet means less chance of a compromise.
Anyone who implements an Internet-accessible application with ASP.NET before
2004 with sensitive (or higher) data is crazy, as proven time and time again
by the number of security exploits that exist for IIS.
 
- Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: Lists, IT [mailto:ITLists@l...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:44 PM
To: ASP+
Subject: [aspx] Intranet as .NET application?



At my company, we are trying to get our heads around the whole new universe 
of .NET. I've had much experience doing ASP development (as well as PHP and 
Perl) so I feel like I know my way around web development. 

My curiosity is this, do you think it makes sense to consider an Intranet as

a .NET application? We have Visual Studio .NET available to us and wish to 
start using it to develop projects. Our Intranet is basically a bunch of 
different company related information pages, a few applications, etc. The 
usual. 

Can anyone give me advice, experientially or otherwise? Thanks! 

Wells Oliver 
Web Application Programmer 
Leviton Voice & Data 
xxx-xxx-xxxx 
http://www.levitonvoicedata.com <http://www.levitonvoicedata.com>  

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Message #6 by "Salvador Gallego" <salvito@h...> on Wed, 5 Jun 2002 15:42:11
I think Asp.net is really a good choise to develop an Intranet 
application, because it seems to be a strong language that will not be 
obsolete in a pretty long time as it use Frameworks and so support a lot 
of Script Languages wich you can implement, so probably it will be a 
better Intranet that one developed in php...

About the security, it's right that IIS have a lot of bugs but asp.net 
implement a lot of new security performances.

With vb.net it can be a easy task, because I'm developing asp.net Without 
it and sometimes and it's a little more difficult.

Regards.

Salvador Gallego.

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