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Message #1 by marl@s... on Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:53:19
Hi:

I know I'm stretching here . . . 

I want to build an app that will alert a mobile phone when a stock hits a 
certain price. Also, I can't deal w/ millions of long distance charges so 
I'm looking for an IP/Internet solution.

The ideal would be, it calls them and tells them the stock has hit their 
buy price and asks if they want to buy.
If they *say* yes, it proceeds.
I know I could use .NET speech technologies to read the voice.

Is there any way to connect to a phone w/ something like Yahoo's Mobile 
Alerts? This would be text only I guess, w/ no response from the user.

Or is there a reasonable way to get the phone to periodically call my site?

Any ideas? thoughts?
Message #2 by "Peter Lanoie" <planoie@n...> on Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:42:05 -0500
As most mobile phones now come with some kind of text messaging service, and
since most of those services allow you to email messages to the phone using
an email address consisting of the wireless number @ the company (example
1234567890@w...) you might be able to utilize this feature
for what you want.

The service could send a message to the phone, then the user would just
reply with a text message.  If you used something to generate a "transaction
number" so when the user replies "Yes", the service would get the message,
and execute that transaction.  Since the "yes" message would originate from
the phone, you'd also be able to validate the email address (of the phone)
against whom transaction X is for.  It all be reasonably simple.  Hard part
from my view is the part that looks at the mail coming in.  Something would
need to check and process any incoming mail messages.  I'm not familiar with
what .Net's capabilities are in this paradigm, but just wanted to offer up a
theoretical solution.  After all, the theoretical ones always work!

Good Luck.

Peter


-----Original Message-----
From: marl@s... [mailto:marl@s...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 17:53
To: ASP.NET
Subject: [aspx] Help - Mobile Phones??


Hi:

I know I'm stretching here . . .

I want to build an app that will alert a mobile phone when a stock hits a
certain price. Also, I can't deal w/ millions of long distance charges so
I'm looking for an IP/Internet solution.

The ideal would be, it calls them and tells them the stock has hit their
buy price and asks if they want to buy.
If they *say* yes, it proceeds.
I know I could use .NET speech technologies to read the voice.

Is there any way to connect to a phone w/ something like Yahoo's Mobile
Alerts? This would be text only I guess, w/ no response from the user.

Or is there a reasonable way to get the phone to periodically call my site?

Any ideas? thoughts?

Message #3 by marl@s... on Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:08:00
Hmm, very cool. Yes I think this will do it.
I guess the transaction number would be in the Subject line?

Probably, my mail server would be UNIX so I'd have to write something that 
monitors a mailbox right? I've done stuff like that for Exchange Server 
and for Outlook. I'm sure I can do it.

This looks like it'd work pretty well.
THANKS!

> As most mobile phones now come with some kind of text messaging service, 
and
since most of those services allow you to email messages to the phone using
an email address consisting of the wireless number @ the company (example
1234567890@w...) you might be able to utilize this feature
for what you want.

The service could send a message to the phone, then the user would just
reply with a text message.  If you used something to generate 
a "transaction
number" so when the user replies "Yes", the service would get the message,
and execute that transaction.  Since the "yes" message would originate from
the phone, you'd also be able to validate the email address (of the phone)
against whom transaction X is for.  It all be reasonably simple.  Hard part
from my view is the part that looks at the mail coming in.  Something would
need to check and process any incoming mail messages.  I'm not familiar 
with
what .Net's capabilities are in this paradigm, but just wanted to offer up 
a
theoretical solution.  After all, the theoretical ones always work!

Good Luck.

Peter


-----Original Message-----
From: marl@s... [mailto:marl@s...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 17:53
To: ASP.NET
Subject: [aspx] Help - Mobile Phones??


Hi:

I know I'm stretching here . . .

I want to build an app that will alert a mobile phone when a stock hits a
certain price. Also, I can't deal w/ millions of long distance charges so
I'm looking for an IP/Internet solution.

The ideal would be, it calls them and tells them the stock has hit their
buy price and asks if they want to buy.
If they *say* yes, it proceeds.
I know I could use .NET speech technologies to read the voice.

Is there any way to connect to a phone w/ something like Yahoo's Mobile
Alerts? This would be text only I guess, w/ no response from the user.

Or is there a reasonable way to get the phone to periodically call my site?

Any ideas? thoughts?

Message #4 by Armand Du Plessis <ArmandDP@c...> on Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:26:29 +0200
Another route you might consider is arrange some kind of integration with
your cellular provider to hook into their smsc. This way it's easier to
handle bulks and you're not going through a mail server. Depends on the
setup of the smsc and your account you'll be able to get delivery reports
telling you that your message was in fact delivered to the handset etc and
the subscriber can reply on the sms and your sms processing application can
then just deal with the message as it sees fit.

Just another idea...

Cheers

armand

-----Original Message-----
From: marl@s... [mailto:marl@s...] 
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:08 AM
To: ASP.NET
Subject: [aspx] RE: Help - Mobile Phones??


Hmm, very cool. Yes I think this will do it.
I guess the transaction number would be in the Subject line?

Probably, my mail server would be UNIX so I'd have to write something that 
monitors a mailbox right? I've done stuff like that for Exchange Server 
and for Outlook. I'm sure I can do it.

This looks like it'd work pretty well.
THANKS!

> As most mobile phones now come with some kind of text messaging
> service,
and
since most of those services allow you to email messages to the phone using
an email address consisting of the wireless number @ the company (example
1234567890@w...) you might be able to utilize this feature
for what you want.

The service could send a message to the phone, then the user would just
reply with a text message.  If you used something to generate 
a "transaction
number" so when the user replies "Yes", the service would get the message,
and execute that transaction.  Since the "yes" message would originate from
the phone, you'd also be able to validate the email address (of the phone)
against whom transaction X is for.  It all be reasonably simple.  Hard part
from my view is the part that looks at the mail coming in.  Something would
need to check and process any incoming mail messages.  I'm not familiar 
with
what .Net's capabilities are in this paradigm, but just wanted to offer up 
a
theoretical solution.  After all, the theoretical ones always work!

Good Luck.

Peter


-----Original Message-----
From: marl@s... [mailto:marl@s...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 17:53
To: ASP.NET
Subject: [aspx] Help - Mobile Phones??


Hi:

I know I'm stretching here . . .

I want to build an app that will alert a mobile phone when a stock hits a
certain price. Also, I can't deal w/ millions of long distance charges so
I'm looking for an IP/Internet solution.

The ideal would be, it calls them and tells them the stock has hit their buy
price and asks if they want to buy. If they *say* yes, it proceeds. I know I
could use .NET speech technologies to read the voice.

Is there any way to connect to a phone w/ something like Yahoo's Mobile
Alerts? This would be text only I guess, w/ no response from the user.

Or is there a reasonable way to get the phone to periodically call my site?

Any ideas? thoughts?
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Message #5 by marl@s... on Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:46:22
Interesting. For now, I've got the EMail solution more or less working.
I'll keep it in mind though.

Thanks.
> Another route you might consider is arrange some kind of integration with
your cellular provider to hook into their smsc. This way it's easier to
handle bulks and you're not going through a mail server. Depends on the
setup of the smsc and your account you'll be able to get delivery reports
telling you that your message was in fact delivered to the handset etc and
the subscriber can reply on the sms and your sms processing application can
then just deal with the message as it sees fit.

Just another idea...

Cheers

armand

-----Original Message-----
From: marl@s... [mailto:marl@s...] 
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:08 AM
To: ASP.NET
Subject: [aspx] RE: Help - Mobile Phones??


Hmm, very cool. Yes I think this will do it.
I guess the transaction number would be in the Subject line?

Probably, my mail server would be UNIX so I'd have to write something that 
monitors a mailbox right? I've done stuff like that for Exchange Server 
and for Outlook. I'm sure I can do it.

This looks like it'd work pretty well.
THANKS!

> As most mobile phones now come with some kind of text messaging
> service,
and
since most of those services allow you to email messages to the phone using
an email address consisting of the wireless number @ the company (example
1234567890@w...) you might be able to utilize this feature
for what you want.

The service could send a message to the phone, then the user would just
reply with a text message.  If you used something to generate 
a "transaction
number" so when the user replies "Yes", the service would get the message,
and execute that transaction.  Since the "yes" message would originate from
the phone, you'd also be able to validate the email address (of the phone)
against whom transaction X is for.  It all be reasonably simple.  Hard part
from my view is the part that looks at the mail coming in.  Something would
need to check and process any incoming mail messages.  I'm not familiar 
with
what .Net's capabilities are in this paradigm, but just wanted to offer up 
a
theoretical solution.  After all, the theoretical ones always work!

Good Luck.

Peter


-----Original Message-----
From: marl@s... [mailto:marl@s...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 17:53
To: ASP.NET
Subject: [aspx] Help - Mobile Phones??


Hi:

I know I'm stretching here . . .

I want to build an app that will alert a mobile phone when a stock hits a
certain price. Also, I can't deal w/ millions of long distance charges so
I'm looking for an IP/Internet solution.

The ideal would be, it calls them and tells them the stock has hit their 
buy
price and asks if they want to buy. If they *say* yes, it proceeds. I know 
I
could use .NET speech technologies to read the voice.

Is there any way to connect to a phone w/ something like Yahoo's Mobile
Alerts? This would be text only I guess, w/ no response from the user.

Or is there a reasonable way to get the phone to periodically call my site?

Any ideas? thoughts?
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