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aspx_beginners thread: RE: .net on Windows ME?
Message #1 by "Chris Ullman" <chrisu@w...> on Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:43:28
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> If I made a blunder (I apoligize), and I am sure I will soon be
>corrected by about 200 or so messages, but I think I called this
>correctly...except that NT 4.0 can also be used.
Well it isn't 200 or so messages :-), and yes Scott you are broadly
correct, except when you come to NT 4.0, I have heard (via another author)
from someone on the beta team, very recently that NT 4.0 is no longer
supported. You can only use Windows 2000 or Windows XP as platforms on
which to run ASP.NET on your web server.
Chris
Message #2 by Chris Ullman <chrisu@w...> on Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:50:45 +0100
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Sorry, I meant to be more specific - the supported platforms that
ASP.NET
can be served from are:
Windows 2000 - Pro/Server/Advanced (etc)
Windows XP - Server
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
Sent: 20 June 2001 12:43
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
> If I made a blunder (I apoligize), and I am sure I will soon be
>corrected by about 200 or so messages, but I think I called this
>correctly...except that NT 4.0 can also be used.
Well it isn't 200 or so messages :-), and yes Scott you are broadly
correct, except when you come to NT 4.0, I have heard (via another
author)
from someone on the beta team, very recently that NT 4.0 is no longer
supported. You can only use Windows 2000 or Windows XP as platforms on
which to run ASP.NET on your web server.
Chris
Message #3 by "Mitch Denny" <mitch.denny@w...> on Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:05:41 +1000
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Chris,
ASP.NET is supported on all breeds of Windows XP, not
just Windows 2002 Server.
----------------------------------------
- Mitch Denny
- http://www.warbyte.com
- mitch.denny@w...
- +61 (414) 610-141
-
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2001 20:51
> To: aspx=5Fbeginners
> Subject: [aspx=5Fbeginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
>
>
> Sorry, I meant to be more specific - the supported platforms that ASP.NET
> can be served from are:
>
> Windows 2000 - Pro/Server/Advanced (etc)
> Windows XP - Server
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
> Sent: 20 June 2001 12:43
> To: aspx=5Fbeginners
> Subject: [aspx=5Fbeginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
>
>
>
> > If I made a blunder (I apoligize), and I am sure I will soon be
> >corrected by about 200 or so messages, but I think I called this
> >correctly...except that NT 4.0 can also be used.
>
> Well it isn't 200 or so messages :-), and yes Scott you are broadly
> correct, except when you come to NT 4.0, I have heard (via
> another author)
> from someone on the beta team, very recently that NT 4.0 is no longer
> supported. You can only use Windows 2000 or Windows XP as platforms on
> which to run ASP.NET on your web server.
>
> Chris
Message #4 by "Chris Sano" <t-csano@m...> on Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:17:03 -0700
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ASP.NET will work on all versions of Windows past 98 (including NT 4.0)
running either PWS or IIS.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Denny [mailto:mitch.denny@w...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:06 PM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
Chris,
ASP.NET is supported on all breeds of Windows XP, not
just Windows 2002 Server.
----------------------------------------
- Mitch Denny
- http://www.warbyte.com
- mitch.denny@w...
- +61 (414) 610-141
-
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2001 20:51
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
>
>
> Sorry, I meant to be more specific - the supported platforms that
ASP.NET
> can be served from are:
>
> Windows 2000 - Pro/Server/Advanced (etc)
> Windows XP - Server
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
> Sent: 20 June 2001 12:43
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
>
>
>
> > If I made a blunder (I apoligize), and I am sure I will soon be
> >corrected by about 200 or so messages, but I think I called this
> >correctly...except that NT 4.0 can also be used.
>
> Well it isn't 200 or so messages :-), and yes Scott you are broadly
> correct, except when you come to NT 4.0, I have heard (via
> another author)
> from someone on the beta team, very recently that NT 4.0 is no longer
> supported. You can only use Windows 2000 or Windows XP as platforms on
> which to run ASP.NET on your web server.
>
> Chris
Message #5 by "Mitch Denny" <mitch.denny@w...> on Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:51:38 +1000
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Chris,
Not with BETA 2. The only platforms supported for hosting
an ASP.NET application are:
Windows 2000 Professional
Windows 2000 Server
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Windows 2000 Datacenter Server
Windows XP Professional
Windows 2002 Server
Windows 2002 Advanced Server
Windows 2002 Datacenter Server
I am not sure about the Windows XP Home Edition, as I
haven't used it OR heard any solid evidence that is
supported. Someone from Microsoft might know more
about that.
According to Scott Guthrie of the ASP.NET team at
Microsoft, they made the decision to drop support
for ASP.NET on Windows NT 4.0 because it placed
an enormous testing load on them which would have
pushed the product release date for V1 out by
too much, and they felt that customers would
appreciate a solid release on Windows 2000/XP
sooner rather than later.
----------------------------------------
- Mitch Denny
- http://www.warbyte.com
- mitch.denny@w...
- +61 (414) 610-141
-
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Sano [mailto:t-csano@m...]
> Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2001 10:17
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
>
>
> ASP.NET will work on all versions of Windows past 98 (including NT 4.0)
> running either PWS or IIS.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitch Denny [mailto:mitch.denny@w...]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:06 PM
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
>
> Chris,
>
> ASP.NET is supported on all breeds of Windows XP, not
> just Windows 2002 Server.
>
> ----------------------------------------
> - Mitch Denny
> - http://www.warbyte.com
> - mitch.denny@w...
> - +61 (414) 610-141
> -
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2001 20:51
> > To: aspx_beginners
> > Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
> >
> >
> > Sorry, I meant to be more specific - the supported platforms that
> ASP.NET
> > can be served from are:
> >
> > Windows 2000 - Pro/Server/Advanced (etc)
> > Windows XP - Server
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
> > Sent: 20 June 2001 12:43
> > To: aspx_beginners
> > Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
> >
> >
> >
> > > If I made a blunder (I apoligize), and I am sure I will soon be
> > >corrected by about 200 or so messages, but I think I called this
> > >correctly...except that NT 4.0 can also be used.
> >
> > Well it isn't 200 or so messages :-), and yes Scott you are broadly
> > correct, except when you come to NT 4.0, I have heard (via
> > another author)
> > from someone on the beta team, very recently that NT 4.0 is no longer
> > supported. You can only use Windows 2000 or Windows XP as platforms on
> > which to run ASP.NET on your web server.
> >
> > Chris
Message #6 by Chris Ullman <chrisu@w...> on Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:09:32 +0100
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That's not what I hear from your beta group. Yes, they can have it
running
on NT 4.0, but they won't have the time to test it fully, so it won't
be
released on NT 4.0. I know it was the intention to let it run on all
these
platforms, but my contacts tell me this is no longer the case.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Sano [mailto:t-csano@m...]
Sent: 21 June 2001 01:17
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
ASP.NET will work on all versions of Windows past 98 (including NT 4.0)
running either PWS or IIS.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Denny [mailto:mitch.denny@w...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:06 PM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
Chris,
ASP.NET is supported on all breeds of Windows XP, not
just Windows 2002 Server.
----------------------------------------
- Mitch Denny
- http://www.warbyte.com
- mitch.denny@w...
- +61 (414) 610-141
-
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2001 20:51
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
>
>
> Sorry, I meant to be more specific - the supported platforms that
ASP.NET
> can be served from are:
>
> Windows 2000 - Pro/Server/Advanced (etc)
> Windows XP - Server
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
> Sent: 20 June 2001 12:43
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
>
>
>
> > If I made a blunder (I apoligize), and I am sure I will soon be
> >corrected by about 200 or so messages, but I think I called this
> >correctly...except that NT 4.0 can also be used.
>
> Well it isn't 200 or so messages :-), and yes Scott you are broadly
> correct, except when you come to NT 4.0, I have heard (via
> another author)
> from someone on the beta team, very recently that NT 4.0 is no longer
> supported. You can only use Windows 2000 or Windows XP as platforms
on
> which to run ASP.NET on your web server.
>
> Chris
Message #7 by Chris Ullman <chrisu@w...> on Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:43:48 +0100
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Mitch,
That's basically what I heard, I just meant Windows XP Pro, not
server. Doh! I didn't comment on Windows 2002, as I hear slightly
different
plans are afoot - yeah obviously ASP.NET will work on it, but possibly
it
will be integrated?
The main reason why ASP.NET won't work on these platforms, as I
understand
it, is that ASP.NET will run only on IIS 5.0 right? And not PWS/IIS
4.0.
This is why the other platforms are all excluded. You can install .Net
Framework on all these platforms, and .Net framework per se (the CLR
and
other bits and pieces) will work, but it will not be able to server
ASP.NET
pages.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Denny [mailto:mitch.denny@w...]
Sent: 21 June 2001 03:52
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
Chris,
Not with BETA 2. The only platforms supported for hosting
an ASP.NET application are:
Windows 2000 Professional
Windows 2000 Server
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Windows 2000 Datacenter Server
Windows XP Professional
Windows 2002 Server
Windows 2002 Advanced Server
Windows 2002 Datacenter Server
I am not sure about the Windows XP Home Edition, as I
haven't used it OR heard any solid evidence that is
supported. Someone from Microsoft might know more
about that.
According to Scott Guthrie of the ASP.NET team at
Microsoft, they made the decision to drop support
for ASP.NET on Windows NT 4.0 because it placed
an enormous testing load on them which would have
pushed the product release date for V1 out by
too much, and they felt that customers would
appreciate a solid release on Windows 2000/XP
sooner rather than later.
----------------------------------------
- Mitch Denny
- http://www.warbyte.com
- mitch.denny@w...
- +61 (414) 610-141
-
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Sano [mailto:t-csano@m...]
> Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2001 10:17
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
>
>
> ASP.NET will work on all versions of Windows past 98 (including NT
4.0)
> running either PWS or IIS.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitch Denny [mailto:mitch.denny@w...]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:06 PM
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
>
> Chris,
>
> ASP.NET is supported on all breeds of Windows XP, not
> just Windows 2002 Server.
>
> ----------------------------------------
> - Mitch Denny
> - http://www.warbyte.com
> - mitch.denny@w...
> - +61 (414) 610-141
> -
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2001 20:51
> > To: aspx_beginners
> > Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
> >
> >
> > Sorry, I meant to be more specific - the supported platforms that
> ASP.NET
> > can be served from are:
> >
> > Windows 2000 - Pro/Server/Advanced (etc)
> > Windows XP - Server
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
> > Sent: 20 June 2001 12:43
> > To: aspx_beginners
> > Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
> >
> >
> >
> > > If I made a blunder (I apoligize), and I am sure I will soon be
> > >corrected by about 200 or so messages, but I think I called this
> > >correctly...except that NT 4.0 can also be used.
> >
> > Well it isn't 200 or so messages :-), and yes Scott you are broadly
> > correct, except when you come to NT 4.0, I have heard (via
> > another author)
> > from someone on the beta team, very recently that NT 4.0 is no
longer
> > supported. You can only use Windows 2000 or Windows XP as platforms
on
> > which to run ASP.NET on your web server.
> >
> > Chris
Message #8 by Daniel Walker <danielw@w...> on Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:45:47 +0100
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Furthermore, the assertion:
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|ASP.NET will work on all versions of Windows past 98
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|(including NT 4.0) running either PWS or IIS.
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Implies that it will run on Windows ME (since ME is "past 98")...
The original question (and indeed the still the subject line of
this thread) was ".NET on Windows ME?" Chris Sano seems to be
implying that the answer to this question is "yes", which I don't
think to be the case. Windows ME only supports PWS _itself_ by
accident. To say (or to infer) that it'll not only run PWS, but
it'll run aspx pages _over_ that webserver, seems a somewhat
dubious statement. Surely, PWS was never meant to support the
.NET framework? I mean there's being thorough, and all that, but
to spend crucial Beta-time developing code that'll run on a
discontinued Webserver that you could never hope to run an
actual website off, on an operating system that doesn't officially
support that webserver anyway... Hmmm.
It would help if clear and concise answers to these kinds of questions
could be provided. I'm still getting personal mails from people asking
me if ASP 3.0 will run on ISS4 or PWS.
"Yes, it'll install, but you can only develop desktop apps"; "Yes, it'll
install, but it won't install the component updates"; "Yes it'll install,
but it won't actually run";... these are not helpful answers, guys! To know
that I'm going to be sitting here in two or three years time _still_
answering these same questions is _not_ encouraging. I think the consensus
is that if it's got IIS 5, it'll probably run ASP.NET code. However, since
not every learner necessarily knows - well... what IIS even _is_ when
they're starting out - it'd be helpful if a clear list of Operating Systems
with a clear "Yes" or "No" besides them could be provided, and then we
could all just refer these questions to such a list.
Now... In answer to the original question: no, Windows ME will not support
ASP.NET (there - I've said it, if anyone wants to gainsay me on that one,
his name better either be Balmer or Gates - and they'd better bear in mind
that I'll still be quoting them on it, three years hence.)
Now, as for how much of the desktop .NET stuff Windows ME will support, I
don't know, but bear in mind that .NET Beta 2 is still a beta, and ME is
still running the Windows 95 kernel: beta software on a Windows 95 kernel
is _not_ a recipe for happiness, IMO.
Daniel Walker
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
Sent: 21 June 2001 11:10
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
That's not what I hear from your beta group. Yes, they can have it running
on NT 4.0, but they won't have the time to test it fully, so it won't be
released on NT 4.0. I know it was the intention to let it run on all these
platforms, but my contacts tell me this is no longer the case.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Sano [mailto:t-csano@m...]
Sent: 21 June 2001 01:17
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
ASP.NET will work on all versions of Windows past 98 (including NT 4.0)
running either PWS or IIS.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Denny [mailto:mitch.denny@w...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:06 PM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
Chris,
ASP.NET is supported on all breeds of Windows XP, not
just Windows 2002 Server.
----------------------------------------
- Mitch Denny
- http://www.warbyte.com
- mitch.denny@w...
- +61 (414) 610-141
-
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2001 20:51
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
>
>
> Sorry, I meant to be more specific - the supported platforms that
ASP.NET
> can be served from are:
>
> Windows 2000 - Pro/Server/Advanced (etc)
> Windows XP - Server
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
> Sent: 20 June 2001 12:43
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
>
>
>
> > If I made a blunder (I apoligize), and I am sure I will soon be
> >corrected by about 200 or so messages, but I think I called this
> >correctly...except that NT 4.0 can also be used.
>
> Well it isn't 200 or so messages :-), and yes Scott you are broadly
> correct, except when you come to NT 4.0, I have heard (via
> another author)
> from someone on the beta team, very recently that NT 4.0 is no longer
> supported. You can only use Windows 2000 or Windows XP as platforms on
> which to run ASP.NET on your web server.
>
> Chris
Message #9 by "K McGUINNESS" <2me@f...> on Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:42:46 +0100
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That's the funniest thing I've every read, keep it up :)
Karl
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Walker [mailto:danielw@w...]
Sent: 21 June 2001 12:46
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
Furthermore, the assertion:
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|ASP.NET will work on all versions of Windows past 98
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|(including NT 4.0) running either PWS or IIS.
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Implies that it will run on Windows ME (since ME is "past 98")...
The original question (and indeed the still the subject line of
this thread) was ".NET on Windows ME?" Chris Sano seems to be
implying that the answer to this question is "yes", which I don't
think to be the case. Windows ME only supports PWS _itself_ by
accident. To say (or to infer) that it'll not only run PWS, but
it'll run aspx pages _over_ that webserver, seems a somewhat
dubious statement. Surely, PWS was never meant to support the
.NET framework? I mean there's being thorough, and all that, but
to spend crucial Beta-time developing code that'll run on a
discontinued Webserver that you could never hope to run an
actual website off, on an operating system that doesn't officially
support that webserver anyway... Hmmm.
It would help if clear and concise answers to these kinds of questions
could be provided. I'm still getting personal mails from people asking
me if ASP 3.0 will run on ISS4 or PWS.
"Yes, it'll install, but you can only develop desktop apps"; "Yes, it'll
install, but it won't install the component updates"; "Yes it'll install,
but it won't actually run";... these are not helpful answers, guys! To know
that I'm going to be sitting here in two or three years time _still_
answering these same questions is _not_ encouraging. I think the consensus
is that if it's got IIS 5, it'll probably run ASP.NET code. However, since
not every learner necessarily knows - well... what IIS even _is_ when
they're starting out - it'd be helpful if a clear list of Operating Systems
with a clear "Yes" or "No" besides them could be provided, and then we
could all just refer these questions to such a list.
Now... In answer to the original question: no, Windows ME will not support
ASP.NET (there - I've said it, if anyone wants to gainsay me on that one,
his name better either be Balmer or Gates - and they'd better bear in mind
that I'll still be quoting them on it, three years hence.)
Now, as for how much of the desktop .NET stuff Windows ME will support, I
don't know, but bear in mind that .NET Beta 2 is still a beta, and ME is
still running the Windows 95 kernel: beta software on a Windows 95 kernel
is _not_ a recipe for happiness, IMO.
Daniel Walker
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
Sent: 21 June 2001 11:10
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
That's not what I hear from your beta group. Yes, they can have it running
on NT 4.0, but they won't have the time to test it fully, so it won't be
released on NT 4.0. I know it was the intention to let it run on all these
platforms, but my contacts tell me this is no longer the case.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Sano [mailto:t-csano@m...]
Sent: 21 June 2001 01:17
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
ASP.NET will work on all versions of Windows past 98 (including NT 4.0)
running either PWS or IIS.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Denny [mailto:mitch.denny@w...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:06 PM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
Chris,
ASP.NET is supported on all breeds of Windows XP, not
just Windows 2002 Server.
----------------------------------------
- Mitch Denny
- http://www.warbyte.com
- mitch.denny@w...
- +61 (414) 610-141
-
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2001 20:51
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
>
>
> Sorry, I meant to be more specific - the supported platforms that
ASP.NET
> can be served from are:
>
> Windows 2000 - Pro/Server/Advanced (etc)
> Windows XP - Server
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
> Sent: 20 June 2001 12:43
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
>
>
>
> > If I made a blunder (I apoligize), and I am sure I will soon be
> >corrected by about 200 or so messages, but I think I called this
> >correctly...except that NT 4.0 can also be used.
>
> Well it isn't 200 or so messages :-), and yes Scott you are broadly
> correct, except when you come to NT 4.0, I have heard (via
> another author)
> from someone on the beta team, very recently that NT 4.0 is no longer
> supported. You can only use Windows 2000 or Windows XP as platforms on
> which to run ASP.NET on your web server.
>
> Chris
Message #10 by "Dennis West" <westdh@h...> on Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:03:09 -0500
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Hello
it will be supported on Windows NT 4.0! Here is the link for the FAQ page
which has all the system requirements:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/nextgen/qa.asp
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 5:10 AM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
That's not what I hear from your beta group. Yes, they can have it running
on NT 4.0, but they won't have the time to test it fully, so it won't be
released on NT 4.0. I know it was the intention to let it run on all these
platforms, but my contacts tell me this is no longer the case.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Sano [mailto:t-csano@m...]
Sent: 21 June 2001 01:17
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
ASP.NET will work on all versions of Windows past 98 (including NT 4.0)
running either PWS or IIS.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Denny [mailto:mitch.denny@w...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:06 PM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
Chris,
ASP.NET is supported on all breeds of Windows XP, not
just Windows 2002 Server.
----------------------------------------
- Mitch Denny
- http://www.warbyte.com
- mitch.denny@w...
- +61 (414) 610-141
-
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2001 20:51
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
>
>
> Sorry, I meant to be more specific - the supported platforms that
ASP.NET
> can be served from are:
>
> Windows 2000 - Pro/Server/Advanced (etc)
> Windows XP - Server
>
> Chris
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Message #11 by "Dennis West" <westdh@h...> on Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:03:00 -0500
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Hello
it will be supported on Windows NT 4.0! Here is the link for the FAQ page
which has all the system requirements:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/nextgen/qa.asp
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Walker [mailto:danielw@w...]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 6:46 AM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
Furthermore, the assertion:
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|ASP.NET will work on all versions of Windows past 98
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|(including NT 4.0) running either PWS or IIS.
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Implies that it will run on Windows ME (since ME is "past 98")...
The original question (and indeed the still the subject line of
this thread) was ".NET on Windows ME?" Chris Sano seems to be
implying that the answer to this question is "yes", which I don't
think to be the case. Windows ME only supports PWS _itself_ by
accident. To say (or to infer) that it'll not only run PWS, but
it'll run aspx pages _over_ that webserver, seems a somewhat
dubious statement. Surely, PWS was never meant to support the
.NET framework? I mean there's being thorough, and all that, but
to spend crucial Beta-time developing code that'll run on a
discontinued Webserver that you could never hope to run an
actual website off, on an operating system that doesn't officially
support that webserver anyway... Hmmm.
It would help if clear and concise answers to these kinds of questions
could be provided. I'm still getting personal mails from people asking
me if ASP 3.0 will run on ISS4 or PWS.
"Yes, it'll install, but you can only develop desktop apps"; "Yes, it'll
install, but it won't install the component updates"; "Yes it'll install,
but it won't actually run";... these are not helpful answers, guys! To know
that I'm going to be sitting here in two or three years time _still_
answering these same questions is _not_ encouraging. I think the consensus
is that if it's got IIS 5, it'll probably run ASP.NET code. However, since
not every learner necessarily knows - well... what IIS even _is_ when
they're starting out - it'd be helpful if a clear list of Operating Systems
with a clear "Yes" or "No" besides them could be provided, and then we
could all just refer these questions to such a list.
Now... In answer to the original question: no, Windows ME will not support
ASP.NET (there - I've said it, if anyone wants to gainsay me on that one,
his name better either be Balmer or Gates - and they'd better bear in mind
that I'll still be quoting them on it, three years hence.)
Now, as for how much of the desktop .NET stuff Windows ME will support, I
don't know, but bear in mind that .NET Beta 2 is still a beta, and ME is
still running the Windows 95 kernel: beta software on a Windows 95 kernel
is _not_ a recipe for happiness, IMO.
Daniel Walker
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
Sent: 21 June 2001 11:10
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
That's not what I hear from your beta group. Yes, they can have it running
on NT 4.0, but they won't have the time to test it fully, so it won't be
released on NT 4.0. I know it was the intention to let it run on all these
platforms, but my contacts tell me this is no longer the case.
Chris
Message #12 by Chris Ullman <chrisu@w...> on Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:14:20 +0100
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Dennis,
Yes, we KNOW what it says on the site, but we have contacts at
Microsoft on the ASP.NET team who assure us, that while it was
originally
the intention to support NT 4.0, that it no longer will be doing this.
This
decision is not fully public knowledge yet, but it will become so.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis West [mailto:westdh@h...]
Sent: 21 June 2001 17:03
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
Hello
it will be supported on Windows NT 4.0! Here is the link for the FAQ
page
which has all the system requirements:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/nextgen/qa.asp
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 5:10 AM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
That's not what I hear from your beta group. Yes, they can have it
running
on NT 4.0, but they won't have the time to test it fully, so it won't
be
released on NT 4.0. I know it was the intention to let it run on all
these
platforms, but my contacts tell me this is no longer the case.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Sano [mailto:t-csano@m...]
Sent: 21 June 2001 01:17
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
ASP.NET will work on all versions of Windows past 98 (including NT 4.0)
running either PWS or IIS.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Denny [mailto:mitch.denny@w...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:06 PM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
Chris,
ASP.NET is supported on all breeds of Windows XP, not
just Windows 2002 Server.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2001 20:51
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
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>
> Sorry, I meant to be more specific - the supported platforms that
ASP.NET
> can be served from are:
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> Windows 2000 - Pro/Server/Advanced (etc)
> Windows XP - Server
>
> Chris
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Message #13 by "Chris Sano" <t-csano@m...> on Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:17:44 -0700
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Thanks for the FYI, Mitch. I didn't realize that support for 98 and NT
had been dropped, but it does make sense.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Denny [mailto:mitch.denny@w...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:52 PM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
Chris,
Not with BETA 2. The only platforms supported for hosting
an ASP.NET application are:
Windows 2000 Professional
Windows 2000 Server
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Windows 2000 Datacenter Server
Windows XP Professional
Windows 2002 Server
Windows 2002 Advanced Server
Windows 2002 Datacenter Server
I am not sure about the Windows XP Home Edition, as I
haven't used it OR heard any solid evidence that is
supported. Someone from Microsoft might know more
about that.
According to Scott Guthrie of the ASP.NET team at
Microsoft, they made the decision to drop support
for ASP.NET on Windows NT 4.0 because it placed
an enormous testing load on them which would have
pushed the product release date for V1 out by
too much, and they felt that customers would
appreciate a solid release on Windows 2000/XP
sooner rather than later.
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- Mitch Denny
- http://www.warbyte.com
- mitch.denny@w...
- +61 (414) 610-141
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Message #14 by "Dennis West" <westdh@h...> on Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:28:20 -0500
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The message I got was from Microsoft MSDN and they verified it also I am
running beta 2 on my NT
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 11:14 AM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
Dennis,
Yes, we KNOW what it says on the site, but we have contacts at
Microsoft on the ASP.NET team who assure us, that while it was originally
the intention to support NT 4.0, that it no longer will be doing this. This
decision is not fully public knowledge yet, but it will become so.
Chris
Message #15 by Chris Ullman <chrisu@w...> on Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:58:32 +0100
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I'll let the guys at Microsoft comment on that. I'm aware .NET works on
Windows NT 4.0, but I believe that it won't reliably serve ASP.NET
pages,
and certainly hasn't and won't be tested properly.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis West [mailto:westdh@h...]
Sent: 21 June 2001 19:28
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
The message I got was from Microsoft MSDN and they verified it also I
am
running beta 2 on my NT
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 11:14 AM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
Dennis,
Yes, we KNOW what it says on the site, but we have contacts at
Microsoft on the ASP.NET team who assure us, that while it was
originally
the intention to support NT 4.0, that it no longer will be doing this.
This
decision is not fully public knowledge yet, but it will become so.
Chris
Message #16 by "Chinnathampi, Jesudas" <jesudas_chinnathampi@r...> on Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:59:05 -0400
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According to Scott Guthrie, a member of the ASP .NET team
"Unfortunately we will not be able to support ASP.NET
deployment on NT4 for V1. While we originally planned
to enable this (and in fact provided limited support for
it in Beta1), we ran into a number of blocking technical
issues in the Beta2 timeframe that prevented us from
accomplishing this."
hth,
das.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 2:59 PM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
I'll let the guys at Microsoft comment on that. I'm aware .NET works on
Windows NT 4.0, but I believe that it won't reliably serve ASP.NET =3D
pages,
and certainly hasn't and won't be tested properly.
Chris
Message #17 by "Mitch Denny" <mitch.denny@w...> on Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:09:37 +1000
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Chris,
Actually I heard yesterday and read a press release by Microsoft
that they have released what Whistler is actuallying going to
be called:
Windows.NET!
Not bad eh? Also, the release of Windows.NET is being delayed
after the release of Windows XP. One can only assume to do more
work to make the .NET justified :) Exciting times.
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- http://www.warbyte.com
- mitch.denny@w...
- +61 (414) 610-141
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Ullman [mailto:chrisu@w...]
> Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2001 21:44
> To: aspx=5Fbeginners
> Subject: [aspx=5Fbeginners] RE: .net on Windows ME?
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> Mitch,
> That's basically what I heard, I just meant Windows XP Pro, not
> server. Doh! I didn't comment on Windows 2002, as I hear slightly
> different
> plans are afoot - yeah obviously ASP.NET will work on it, but possibly it
> will be integrated?
>
> The main reason why ASP.NET won't work on these platforms, as I understand
> it, is that ASP.NET will run only on IIS 5.0 right? And not PWS/IIS 4.0.
> This is why the other platforms are all excluded. You can install .Net
> Framework on all these platforms, and .Net framework per se (the CLR and
> other bits and pieces) will work, but it will not be able to
> server ASP.NET
> pages.
>
> Chris
>
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