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Message #1 by "Olav Benum" <wrox@b...> on Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:38:42
I am now more half-way through "Beginning ASP.NET using C#"

I am surprised that there is not much about Web-Forms, which

I though was a central aspect of .NET.  There is also very little

use of the IDE.  It generally advices to use a text-editor.  It

has a argument for this in that Framemaker etc. inserts its

own code, so it can be confusing.



But I think at least it should be possible to find a 

way to work with plain code from the IDE?  

(With access to debugger etc)  Or Not? 



Though my suspicion is that this is more a "legacy" from earlier

alfa/beta-versions and ASP.  If this is the case I would have 

expected some updates on the web-site (That is part of the reason

I buy Wrox).



Also I think much of the C#-stuff is a bit to

basic.  I would think most people buying this

book (The only ASP.NET book based on C# instead

of VB.NET) would know C++ or Java.  You can never

make a book that fits everybody, but I think there

should be a kind of guide to what to read - for 

example I think the stuff on C# Collections is very 

relevant 



Thanks

Olav



Message #2 by "Douglas Rohm" <dlr@m...> on Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:54:41 -0500
Olav,

I too am half-way through the book, which I find to be very relevant, and

good.  Like the title of the book states, it's a 'Beginning' series book and

as such, they want to make things as uncomplicated as possible.  I know from

experience that using VS.NET convolutes the code and would make it very

difficult for the authors to explain what all is going on (especially when

the readers are beginners).  I'm not necessarily a beginner, but being new

to .NET development and ASP.NET, I find this approach very appropriate.



I only have a couple of beefs with the book/web site.  The book states that

all of the exercises are on the P2P site (http://p2p.wrox.com).  This is not

true.  I've emailed WROX about this and they told me that they are working

on the source code and when it's complete they will put it up.  Well, they

have made the source code available online, but no exercises on the P2P site

yet.  I really want the exercises to be available online so I can check my

work.



My second beef with the book are all the grammatical errors.  It's very

obvious that WROX went through the 'Beginning ASP.NET Using VB.NET' book and

simply changed the code examples without reading the explanations very

thoroughly.  I've found numerous errors and have submitted them to the Book

Errata and they haven't made them viewable online.



Other than those two things, I love the book. I'm just now starting Chapter

10, which is where I think things will begin to get more detailed (web

forms, user controls, etc...).  Bottom line, I'm enjoying the book and find

that it was well worth the money spent on it.



Doug



----- Original Message -----

From: "Olav Benum" <wrox@b...>

To: "aspx_beginners" <aspx_beginners@p...>

Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:38 PM

Subject: [aspx_beginners] About "Beginning ASP.NET using C#"





> I am now more half-way through "Beginning ASP.NET using C#"

> I am surprised that there is not much about Web-Forms, which

> I though was a central aspect of .NET.  There is also very little

> use of the IDE.  It generally advices to use a text-editor.  It

> has a argument for this in that Framemaker etc. inserts its

> own code, so it can be confusing.

>

> But I think at least it should be possible to find a

> way to work with plain code from the IDE?

> (With access to debugger etc)  Or Not?

>

> Though my suspicion is that this is more a "legacy" from earlier

> alfa/beta-versions and ASP.  If this is the case I would have

> expected some updates on the web-site (That is part of the reason

> I buy Wrox).

>

> Also I think much of the C#-stuff is a bit to

> basic.  I would think most people buying this

> book (The only ASP.NET book based on C# instead

> of VB.NET) would know C++ or Java.  You can never

> make a book that fits everybody, but I think there

> should be a kind of guide to what to read - for

> example I think the stuff on C# Collections is very

> relevant

>

> Thanks

> Olav

>

>




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