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aspx_beginners thread: About "Beginning ASP.NET using C#"
Message #1 by "Olav Benum" <wrox@b...> on Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:38:42
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I am now more half-way through "Beginning ASP.NET using C#"
I am surprised that there is not much about Web-Forms, which
I though was a central aspect of .NET. There is also very little
use of the IDE. It generally advices to use a text-editor. It
has a argument for this in that Framemaker etc. inserts its
own code, so it can be confusing.
But I think at least it should be possible to find a
way to work with plain code from the IDE?
(With access to debugger etc) Or Not?
Though my suspicion is that this is more a "legacy" from earlier
alfa/beta-versions and ASP. If this is the case I would have
expected some updates on the web-site (That is part of the reason
I buy Wrox).
Also I think much of the C#-stuff is a bit to
basic. I would think most people buying this
book (The only ASP.NET book based on C# instead
of VB.NET) would know C++ or Java. You can never
make a book that fits everybody, but I think there
should be a kind of guide to what to read - for
example I think the stuff on C# Collections is very
relevant
Thanks
Olav
Message #2 by "Douglas Rohm" <dlr@m...> on Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:54:41 -0500
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Olav,
I too am half-way through the book, which I find to be very relevant, and
good. Like the title of the book states, it's a 'Beginning' series book and
as such, they want to make things as uncomplicated as possible. I know from
experience that using VS.NET convolutes the code and would make it very
difficult for the authors to explain what all is going on (especially when
the readers are beginners). I'm not necessarily a beginner, but being new
to .NET development and ASP.NET, I find this approach very appropriate.
I only have a couple of beefs with the book/web site. The book states that
all of the exercises are on the P2P site (http://p2p.wrox.com). This is not
true. I've emailed WROX about this and they told me that they are working
on the source code and when it's complete they will put it up. Well, they
have made the source code available online, but no exercises on the P2P site
yet. I really want the exercises to be available online so I can check my
work.
My second beef with the book are all the grammatical errors. It's very
obvious that WROX went through the 'Beginning ASP.NET Using VB.NET' book and
simply changed the code examples without reading the explanations very
thoroughly. I've found numerous errors and have submitted them to the Book
Errata and they haven't made them viewable online.
Other than those two things, I love the book. I'm just now starting Chapter
10, which is where I think things will begin to get more detailed (web
forms, user controls, etc...). Bottom line, I'm enjoying the book and find
that it was well worth the money spent on it.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Olav Benum" <wrox@b...>
To: "aspx_beginners" <aspx_beginners@p...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:38 PM
Subject: [aspx_beginners] About "Beginning ASP.NET using C#"
> I am now more half-way through "Beginning ASP.NET using C#"
> I am surprised that there is not much about Web-Forms, which
> I though was a central aspect of .NET. There is also very little
> use of the IDE. It generally advices to use a text-editor. It
> has a argument for this in that Framemaker etc. inserts its
> own code, so it can be confusing.
>
> But I think at least it should be possible to find a
> way to work with plain code from the IDE?
> (With access to debugger etc) Or Not?
>
> Though my suspicion is that this is more a "legacy" from earlier
> alfa/beta-versions and ASP. If this is the case I would have
> expected some updates on the web-site (That is part of the reason
> I buy Wrox).
>
> Also I think much of the C#-stuff is a bit to
> basic. I would think most people buying this
> book (The only ASP.NET book based on C# instead
> of VB.NET) would know C++ or Java. You can never
> make a book that fits everybody, but I think there
> should be a kind of guide to what to read - for
> example I think the stuff on C# Collections is very
> relevant
>
> Thanks
> Olav
>
>
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