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aspx_beginners thread: need advice
Message #1 by "Elv3n_k1ng" <elv3n_k1ng@y...> on Wed, 23 Jan 2002 11:00:04 +0700
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i need advice,
i want to learn about .net, but i don't know where to start.
i'm using asp at my work with win 2000 advanced server and sql server 7.
what software do i need to run .net application ?
thx
Message #2 by "Steven A Smith" <ssmith@a...> on Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:30:37 -0500
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Start at the source, http://asp.net/
Then check out:
http://aspalliance.com
http://aspng.com
http://123aspx.com
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elv3n_k1ng" <elv3n_k1ng@y...>
To: "aspx_beginners" <aspx_beginners@p...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 11:00 PM
Subject: [aspx_beginners] need advice
> i need advice,
> i want to learn about .net, but i don't know where to start.
> i'm using asp at my work with win 2000 advanced server and sql server 7.
> what software do i need to run .net application ?
> thx
>
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Message #3 by "Minh T. Nguyen" <nguyentriminh@y...> on Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:38:59 -0800
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If you just want to run .NET applications, you only need to download and
install the .NET Framework, which acts as a virtual machine, so that
your .NET-code (C#, VB.NET) can run. To download the 20 MB framework,
just go to:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/default.asp?url=/downloads/sample.as
p?url=/MSDN-FILES/027/001/829/msdncompositedoc.xml&frame=true
If you want to develop .NET applications, you have to download the .NET
SDK which includes compilers that compile your C#, VB.NET code into an
intermediate language that eventually will "run" on the framework. For
the SDK, go to:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/default.asp?url=/downloads/sample.as
p?url=/msdn-files/027/000/976/msdncompositedoc.xml&frame=true
Althought Visual Studio.NET is per se not necessary for software
development in .NET, it's highly recommended.
And since those URLs are pretty long, I usually direct people to go to
www.c-sharpcorner.com, which has a link to those two URLs above.
As for ASP.NET, only the web server needs the .NET framework (or does it
need the SDK as well, someone know?), while the client can still surf
the web with his/her old browser on an OS that does not have the .NET
framework.
Hope it helps,
Minh.
-----Original Message-----
From: Elv3n_k1ng [mailto:elv3n_k1ng@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 8:00 PM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] need advice
i need advice,
i want to learn about .net, but i don't know where to start. i'm using
asp at my work with win 2000 advanced server and sql server 7. what
software do i need to run .net application ? thx
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Message #4 by agaisin@c... on Wed, 23 Jan 2002 00:04:22 +0000
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Of course these are great sites to look at. Let me give some more focused advice, though.
To start to get an idea of what asp.net code looks like here's a great tutorial with samples that you can run and view source on
side-by-side. It was a great beginning for me.
http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickstart/aspplus/Default.aspx
In particular, start with the "Getting started" section of course, and then look at the "ASP.NET Webforms" section. I think that
will be a great start.
There are great sites out there and I love them for quickies - articles, tidbits, tips, tricks, code snippets, etc...
BUT at least personally, when I start with a new technology or any new subject matter, I like to read as much as possible from a
single 'all encompassing' source. It's hard to find good articles worth reading that cover what you need/want to know.
I started with Wrox Introducing .net for an overview on what .net is and what it brings to the table.
A new series I recently took a look at and was very impressed with was codenotes - they have one on .net and one on vb.net. What I
read was very concise and to the point yet accurate and understandable.
For more detail and coverage, I have been enjoying WROX's Professional ASP.NET book. It's really great!!
If you're set on one vb.net or c#.net you may also choose to look at WROX's Beginning ASP.NET Using VB.NET (or C#.net).
Basically, I'd suggest looking at the quickstart tutorial located at the link I mentioned above.
If you can you'd probably benefit a lot from reading some sort of book on .net (there are so many great ones).
In terms of what you need to get started, all you really need is to download the .net framework (you'll probably want version 1.0)
and install it.
You can find a link to the download here: http://www.asp.net/download.aspx
Then with the framework, you will be able to compile and run any code you write.
You can write code in your editor of choice (notepad or whatever).
Visual Studio.net Version 1 is not free so unless you have msdn you're not in luck.
Note, the visual studio.net install includes .net framework so you don't need to install both seperately.
Be forewarned, you can only run VS.NET Version 1 with .net framework version 1 and vice versa.
You cannot run vs.net beta2 with the framework version 1 or vs.net version 1 with the framework beta2.
That's why if you can't get your hands on vs.net v1 you may want to consider going with all beta2 (vs.net beta2 and framework beta2)
for the moment. Then if you do get your hands you can uninstall beta2 and install version 1 and then to get beta2 code to work with
version1 just recompile it with version1 framework....
hope this has helped.
Good luck,
Arthur Gaisin
---- Message from "Steven A Smith" <ssmith@a...> at Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:30:37 -0500 ------
Start at the source, http://asp.net/
Then check out:
http://aspalliance.com
http://aspng.com
http://123aspx.com
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elv3n_k1ng" <elv3n_k1ng@y...>
To: "aspx_beginners" <aspx_beginners@p...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 11:00 PM
Subject: [aspx_beginners] need advice
> i need advice,
> i want to learn about .net, but i don't know where to start.
> i'm using asp at my work with win 2000 advanced server and sql server 7.
> what software do i need to run .net application ?
> thx
>
$subst('Email.Unsub').
>
Message #5 by "Elv3n_k1ng" <elv3n_k1ng@y...> on Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:15:33 +0700
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thx for the responses you all give me....
sorry took me much time to respond back to you....
so correct me if i'm wrong,
i need .net framework to run my .net application, just like asp3.0 runs asp
application
.net is an add-on to iis5
can .net access sql server 7 ? or it only accesses sql server 2000 ?
thx.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: agaisin@c... [mailto:agaisin@c...]
> Sent: 23 Januari 2002 7:04
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] Re: need advice
>
>
> Of course these are great sites to look at. Let me give some
> more focused advice, though.
>
> To start to get an idea of what asp.net code looks like here's a
> great tutorial with samples that you can run and view source on
> side-by-side. It was a great beginning for me.
> http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickstart/aspplus/Default.aspx
>
> In particular, start with the "Getting started" section of
> course, and then look at the "ASP.NET Webforms" section. I think
> that will be a great start.
>
> There are great sites out there and I love them for quickies -
> articles, tidbits, tips, tricks, code snippets, etc...
> BUT at least personally, when I start with a new technology or
> any new subject matter, I like to read as much as possible from a
> single 'all encompassing' source. It's hard to find good
> articles worth reading that cover what you need/want to know.
>
> I started with Wrox Introducing .net for an overview on what .net
> is and what it brings to the table.
> A new series I recently took a look at and was very impressed
> with was codenotes - they have one on .net and one on vb.net.
> What I read was very concise and to the point yet accurate and
> understandable.
> For more detail and coverage, I have been enjoying WROX's
> Professional ASP.NET book. It's really great!!
> If you're set on one vb.net or c#.net you may also choose to look
> at WROX's Beginning ASP.NET Using VB.NET (or C#.net).
>
> Basically, I'd suggest looking at the quickstart tutorial located
> at the link I mentioned above.
> If you can you'd probably benefit a lot from reading some sort of
> book on .net (there are so many great ones).
>
> In terms of what you need to get started, all you really need is
> to download the .net framework (you'll probably want version 1.0)
> and install it.
> You can find a link to the download here: http://www.asp.net/download.aspx
> Then with the framework, you will be able to compile and run any
> code you write.
> You can write code in your editor of choice (notepad or whatever).
> Visual Studio.net Version 1 is not free so unless you have msdn
> you're not in luck.
> Note, the visual studio.net install includes .net framework so
> you don't need to install both seperately.
> Be forewarned, you can only run VS.NET Version 1 with .net
> framework version 1 and vice versa.
> You cannot run vs.net beta2 with the framework version 1 or
> vs.net version 1 with the framework beta2.
> That's why if you can't get your hands on vs.net v1 you may want
> to consider going with all beta2 (vs.net beta2 and framework
> beta2) for the moment. Then if you do get your hands you can
> uninstall beta2 and install version 1 and then to get beta2 code
> to work with version1 just recompile it with version1 framework....
>
> hope this has helped.
> Good luck,
> Arthur Gaisin
>
> ---- Message from "Steven A Smith" <ssmith@a...> at
> Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:30:37 -0500 ------
> Start at the source, http://asp.net/
>
> Then check out:
> http://aspalliance.com
> http://aspng.com
> http://123aspx.com
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Elv3n_k1ng" <elv3n_k1ng@y...>
> To: "aspx_beginners" <aspx_beginners@p...>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 11:00 PM
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] need advice
>
>
> > i need advice,
> > i want to learn about .net, but i don't know where to start.
> > i'm using asp at my work with win 2000 advanced server and sql server 7.
> > what software do i need to run .net application ?
> > thx
> >
> $subst('Email.Unsub').
> >
>
>
> $subst('Email.Unsub').
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>
>
> $subst('Email.Unsub').
Message #6 by "Steven A Smith" <ssmith@a...> on Thu, 24 Jan 2002 23:19:03 -0500
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It can access many different databases, including Access, Sql 7, Sql 2000,
Oracle, DB2, whatever. If it has a data adapter written for it and/or an ODBC
driver, it can connect to it.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elv3n_k1ng" <elv3n_k1ng@y...>
To: "aspx_beginners" <aspx_beginners@p...>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:15 PM
Subject: [aspx_beginners] Re: need advice
> thx for the responses you all give me....
> sorry took me much time to respond back to you....
>
> so correct me if i'm wrong,
> i need .net framework to run my .net application, just like asp3.0 runs asp
> application
> .net is an add-on to iis5
> can .net access sql server 7 ? or it only accesses sql server 2000 ?
> thx.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: agaisin@c... [mailto:agaisin@c...]
> > Sent: 23 Januari 2002 7:04
> > To: aspx_beginners
> > Subject: [aspx_beginners] Re: need advice
> >
> >
> > Of course these are great sites to look at. Let me give some
> > more focused advice, though.
> >
> > To start to get an idea of what asp.net code looks like here's a
> > great tutorial with samples that you can run and view source on
> > side-by-side. It was a great beginning for me.
> > http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickstart/aspplus/Default.aspx
> >
> > In particular, start with the "Getting started" section of
> > course, and then look at the "ASP.NET Webforms" section. I think
> > that will be a great start.
> >
> > There are great sites out there and I love them for quickies -
> > articles, tidbits, tips, tricks, code snippets, etc...
> > BUT at least personally, when I start with a new technology or
> > any new subject matter, I like to read as much as possible from a
> > single 'all encompassing' source. It's hard to find good
> > articles worth reading that cover what you need/want to know.
> >
> > I started with Wrox Introducing .net for an overview on what .net
> > is and what it brings to the table.
> > A new series I recently took a look at and was very impressed
> > with was codenotes - they have one on .net and one on vb.net.
> > What I read was very concise and to the point yet accurate and
> > understandable.
> > For more detail and coverage, I have been enjoying WROX's
> > Professional ASP.NET book. It's really great!!
> > If you're set on one vb.net or c#.net you may also choose to look
> > at WROX's Beginning ASP.NET Using VB.NET (or C#.net).
> >
> > Basically, I'd suggest looking at the quickstart tutorial located
> > at the link I mentioned above.
> > If you can you'd probably benefit a lot from reading some sort of
> > book on .net (there are so many great ones).
> >
> > In terms of what you need to get started, all you really need is
> > to download the .net framework (you'll probably want version 1.0)
> > and install it.
> > You can find a link to the download here: http://www.asp.net/download.aspx
> > Then with the framework, you will be able to compile and run any
> > code you write.
> > You can write code in your editor of choice (notepad or whatever).
> > Visual Studio.net Version 1 is not free so unless you have msdn
> > you're not in luck.
> > Note, the visual studio.net install includes .net framework so
> > you don't need to install both seperately.
> > Be forewarned, you can only run VS.NET Version 1 with .net
> > framework version 1 and vice versa.
> > You cannot run vs.net beta2 with the framework version 1 or
> > vs.net version 1 with the framework beta2.
> > That's why if you can't get your hands on vs.net v1 you may want
> > to consider going with all beta2 (vs.net beta2 and framework
> > beta2) for the moment. Then if you do get your hands you can
> > uninstall beta2 and install version 1 and then to get beta2 code
> > to work with version1 just recompile it with version1 framework....
> >
> > hope this has helped.
> > Good luck,
> > Arthur Gaisin
> >
> > ---- Message from "Steven A Smith" <ssmith@a...> at
> > Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:30:37 -0500 ------
> > Start at the source, http://asp.net/
> >
> > Then check out:
> > http://aspalliance.com
> > http://aspng.com
> > http://123aspx.com
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Elv3n_k1ng" <elv3n_k1ng@y...>
> > To: "aspx_beginners" <aspx_beginners@p...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 11:00 PM
> > Subject: [aspx_beginners] need advice
> >
> >
> > > i need advice,
> > > i want to learn about .net, but i don't know where to start.
> > > i'm using asp at my work with win 2000 advanced server and sql server 7.
> > > what software do i need to run .net application ?
> > > thx
> > >
> > $subst('Email.Unsub').
> > >
> >
> >
> > $subst('Email.Unsub').
> >
> >
> >
> > $subst('Email.Unsub').
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