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aspx_beginners thread: ASP or ASP.NET ? That is the question :)


Message #1 by "david potter" <djpotte@p...> on Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:23:42
I am an MS Access programmer. My company wants me to put the databases I 
have developed on our intranet. I needing to know which direction to 
go ... ASP or ASP.NET    I understand VBScript from MS Access. But I have 
heard a lot of good things about ASP.NET  .... however I have also heard 
that ASP.NET is on the bleeding edge ... and I should go with ASP for this 
is more support and the learning curve is less.     DO ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY 
SUGGESTIONS?

dave
Message #2 by soltisa@W... on Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:19:35 -0800
If you don't already know ASP then go with .NET, way better in every way and
a year ago it was bleeding edge, but now it is the only thing I code in.
(just starting to switch from VB to C#).

It is going to take a lot of reading on your part. I suggest you buy both
Beginning ASP.NET using VB.NET and Professional ASP.NET books from WROX and
read them from cover to cover.

Alvin Soltis
PCS Center Technology
"The less you have, the less you have to worry about"


-----Original Message-----
From: david potter [mailto:djpotte@p...] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:24 AM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] ASP or ASP.NET ? That is the question :)


I am an MS Access programmer. My company wants me to put the databases I 
have developed on our intranet. I needing to know which direction to 
go ... ASP or ASP.NET    I understand VBScript from MS Access. But I have 
heard a lot of good things about ASP.NET  .... however I have also heard 
that ASP.NET is on the bleeding edge ... and I should go with ASP for this 
is more support and the learning curve is less.     DO ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY 
SUGGESTIONS?

dave
Message #3 by David Barnes <DavidB@w...> on Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:50:35 -0000
Hi David

I'm a commissioning editor with Wrox. Before then I was a VB6 and ASP 3
programmer for a small software development house.

David, I'd love it if you bought both Beginning and Professional ASP.NET,
but I really don't think you need to read them from cover to cover before
you start. I'd hope that Beginning ASP.NET will give you more than enough
information and guidance to put your MS Access database online. In fact,
I've been working on an even shorter book than Beginning ASP.NET that will
probably show you what you need... Beginning Dynamic Websites with ASP.NET
Web Matrix (http://www.wrox.com/books/1861007922.htm)

The great thing about ASP.NET is that you can use it to throw things
together really quickly if you want to (much quicker & easier than you could
in ASP 3). But if you're prepared to put the time in learning you can also
build some very powerful systems... it certainly can be more powerful that
ASP 3. It sounds like Alvin is of the "knowledge is power" school of
thought! ;)

If you want to put an Access database on your company intranet with a web
front end, I really believe that a Beginning book will be enough.

The main differences between Beginning ASP.NET and Beginning Dynamic
Websites are:

- Beginning ASP.NET is for use primarily with a Text Editor... Beginning
Dynamic Websites comes with a free copy of Web Matrix, an ASP.NET IDE from
Microsoft.

- Beginning ASP.NET goes into more technical detail, and covers more
advanced programming techniques such as XML and Object Oriented Programming.
Beginning Dynamic Websites only really looks at how to create data-driven
web pages

- You can choose VB.NET or C# versions of Beginning ASP.NET -- Beginning
Dynamic Websites is VB.NET only

- Beginning Dynamic Websites will work on Windows XP Home, you need XP Pro,
2000, or NT to use Beginning ASP.NET

- I get a bonus on sales of Beginning Dynamic Websites ;)

I've always been a bit impatient about reading programming books cover to
cover... and at Wrox we try to make sure our books cater for people like me,
who want to get something up and running as quickly as possible. So either
Beginning ASP.NET or Beginning Dynamic Websites should get you coding your
site within a matter of hours. ;)

I hope you find this helpful. Obviously this is only my personal opinion...
but I didn't want you to get the impression that ASP.NET was so hard that
you needed to read two books before you could even start. On the contrary, I
think it's fast, fun, and easy to get started.

Best regards

David Barnes
Editor, Wrox Press



> -----Original Message-----
> From: soltisa@W... [mailto:soltisa@W...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:20 PM
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: ASP or ASP.NET ? That is the question :)
> 
> 
> If you don't already know ASP then go with .NET, way better 
> in every way and
> a year ago it was bleeding edge, but now it is the only thing 
> I code in.
> (just starting to switch from VB to C#).
> 
> It is going to take a lot of reading on your part. I suggest 
> you buy both
> Beginning ASP.NET using VB.NET and Professional ASP.NET books 
> from WROX and
> read them from cover to cover.
> 
> Alvin Soltis
> PCS Center Technology
> "The less you have, the less you have to worry about"
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: david potter [mailto:djpotte@p...] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:24 AM
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] ASP or ASP.NET ? That is the question :)
> 
> 
> I am an MS Access programmer. My company wants me to put the 
> databases I 
> have developed on our intranet. I needing to know which direction to 
> go ... ASP or ASP.NET    I understand VBScript from MS 
> Access. But I have 
> heard a lot of good things about ASP.NET  .... however I have 
> also heard 
> that ASP.NET is on the bleeding edge ... and I should go with 
> ASP for this 
> is more support and the learning curve is less.     DO ANY OF 
> YOU HAVE ANY 
> SUGGESTIONS?
> 
> dave
> 
> 
Message #4 by "Alex Smotritsky" <alex.smotritsky@v...> on Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:54:35 -0500
The learning curve is higher for asp.net so if you need to do this
quick, asp is the way to go, asp.net is better otherwise.


-----Original Message-----
From: david potter [mailto:djpotte@p...] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:24 PM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] ASP or ASP.NET ? That is the question :)


I am an MS Access programmer. My company wants me to put the databases I

have developed on our intranet. I needing to know which direction to 
go ... ASP or ASP.NET    I understand VBScript from MS Access. But I
have 
heard a lot of good things about ASP.NET  .... however I have also heard

that ASP.NET is on the bleeding edge ... and I should go with ASP for
this 
is more support and the learning curve is less.     DO ANY OF YOU HAVE
ANY 
SUGGESTIONS?

dave

Message #5 by Simon Hargreaves <simon.hargreaves@r...> on Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:00:51 -0000
Dave,

I have a suggestion ASP.NET.

I too started from scratch working with the Wrox book and also the ASP.NET
For Dummies book. If you can do VB script you won't have a problem with
.NET, follow the examples and then convert copies of the code to suit your
own databases and you'll have the site up and running in no time at all.

Its just sounds a bit daunting - it shouldn't be. Give it a go, you'll find
its easier than it sounds.

go for it !

Simon

-----Original Message-----
From: david potter [mailto:djpotte@p...]
Sent: 29 January 2003 19:24
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] ASP or ASP.NET ? That is the question :)


I am an MS Access programmer. My company wants me to put the databases I 
have developed on our intranet. I needing to know which direction to 
go ... ASP or ASP.NET    I understand VBScript from MS Access. But I have 
heard a lot of good things about ASP.NET  .... however I have also heard 
that ASP.NET is on the bleeding edge ... and I should go with ASP for this 
is more support and the learning curve is less.     DO ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY 
SUGGESTIONS?

dave

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