Just wondering why WROX isn't using ASP.net on this site.

dave

Because we wrote it before ASP.NET was available, and it still works. If we
were starting again from scratch I'm sure we'd use ASP.NET. But if it aint
broke, we won't fix it! ;)

On the other hand, when we recently redesigned Wrox.com we went straight for
ASP.NET -- and it made building the site much faster because (using Web
Matrix, the free tool from Microsoft) we could just drag and drop controls
onto pages, instead of manually coding absolutely everything...

On the *other* hand, the new site www.wroxdirect.com, uses ASP3. Why?
Because the developers who wrote it were already ASP 3 wizzes, and it would
have blown the site's budget if they'd had to retrain before they started.

Whenever you start a programming project, there's a lot more to choosing the
platform than just picking the best one. You also need to consider what the
developers are already familiar with, what spec server you have available,
whether useful code already exists in a particular language, etc.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: david potter [mailto:djpotte@p...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:25 PM
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on this site?
> 
> 
> Just wondering why WROX isn't using ASP.net on this site.
> 
> dave
> 

Can you please elaborate on Web Matrix?  Does it work with Visual.NET or is
it a whole new editor? VS.NET puts interDev to shame, if Web Matrix is
better I can't wait for the download to finish. 

Alvin Soltis
PCS Center Technology
"The less you have, the less you have to worry about"


-----Original Message-----
From: David Barnes [mailto:DavidB@w...] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:01 PM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on this site?


Because we wrote it before ASP.NET was available, and it still works. If we
were starting again from scratch I'm sure we'd use ASP.NET. But if it aint
broke, we won't fix it! ;)

On the other hand, when we recently redesigned Wrox.com we went straight for
ASP.NET -- and it made building the site much faster because (using Web
Matrix, the free tool from Microsoft) we could just drag and drop controls
onto pages, instead of manually coding absolutely everything...

On the *other* hand, the new site www.wroxdirect.com, uses ASP3. Why?
Because the developers who wrote it were already ASP 3 wizzes, and it would
have blown the site's budget if they'd had to retrain before they started.

Whenever you start a programming project, there's a lot more to choosing the
platform than just picking the best one. You also need to consider what the
developers are already familiar with, what spec server you have available,
whether useful code already exists in a particular language, etc.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: david potter [mailto:djpotte@p...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:25 PM
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on this site?
> 
> 
> Just wondering why WROX isn't using ASP.net on this site.
> 
> dave
> 

Web Matrix is great if you're the sort of person who'd be tempted to use
Notepad over VS.NET. It's simple, it's quick to learn, and it's free. I'm
not going to say it's better than VS.NET... clearly VS.NET is an expensive
and very powerful piece of software.

But if you're working on your own, aren't worried too much about code reuse,
and want to conserve money and disk space, it's a great little editor.

Web Matrix doesn't support many of the clever features of VS.NET,
particularly it doesn't support code behind. But there are a decent number
of people who love Web Matrix specifically because it doesn't force you to
use code behind for everything. Different strokes for different folks, I
guess.

I'd certainly recommend everybody tries it out. Particularly if you don't
want to splash out money and hard disk space on VS.NET. There are a few
people I know who have stopped using VS.NET to develop ASP.NET pages -- and
now use VS.NET to develop class libraries, and Web Matrix to develop the
user interface.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: soltisa@W... [mailto:soltisa@W...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:15 PM
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on this sit
> e?
> 
> 
> Can you please elaborate on Web Matrix?  Does it work with 
> Visual.NET or is
> it a whole new editor? VS.NET puts interDev to shame, if Web Matrix is
> better I can't wait for the download to finish. 
> 
> Alvin Soltis
> PCS Center Technology
> "The less you have, the less you have to worry about"
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Barnes [mailto:DavidB@w...] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:01 PM
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on 
> this site?
> 
> 
> Because we wrote it before ASP.NET was available, and it 
> still works. If we
> were starting again from scratch I'm sure we'd use ASP.NET. 
> But if it aint
> broke, we won't fix it! ;)
> 
> On the other hand, when we recently redesigned Wrox.com we 
> went straight for
> ASP.NET -- and it made building the site much faster because 
> (using Web
> Matrix, the free tool from Microsoft) we could just drag and 
> drop controls
> onto pages, instead of manually coding absolutely everything...
> 
> On the *other* hand, the new site www.wroxdirect.com, uses ASP3. Why?
> Because the developers who wrote it were already ASP 3 
> wizzes, and it would
> have blown the site's budget if they'd had to retrain before 
> they started.
> 
> Whenever you start a programming project, there's a lot more 
> to choosing the
> platform than just picking the best one. You also need to 
> consider what the
> developers are already familiar with, what spec server you 
> have available,
> whether useful code already exists in a particular language, etc.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: david potter [mailto:djpotte@p...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:25 PM
> > To: aspx_beginners
> > Subject: [aspx_beginners] Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on this site?
> > 
> > 
> > Just wondering why WROX isn't using ASP.net on this site.
> > 
> > dave
> > 
> 
> 
> 

Maybe they have a policy like "we don't use new technology for mission
critical stuff until it's been out for 2 years and most bugs have been
fixed".


-----Original Message-----
From: david potter [mailto:djpotte@p...] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:25 PM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on this site?


Just wondering why WROX isn't using ASP.net on this site.

dave

Woops, I didn't read this before my last post =O


-----Original Message-----
From: David Barnes [mailto:DavidB@w...] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:01 PM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on this site?


Because we wrote it before ASP.NET was available, and it still works. If
we were starting again from scratch I'm sure we'd use ASP.NET. But if it
aint broke, we won't fix it! ;)

On the other hand, when we recently redesigned Wrox.com we went straight
for ASP.NET -- and it made building the site much faster because (using
Web Matrix, the free tool from Microsoft) we could just drag and drop
controls onto pages, instead of manually coding absolutely everything...

On the *other* hand, the new site www.wroxdirect.com, uses ASP3. Why?
Because the developers who wrote it were already ASP 3 wizzes, and it
would have blown the site's budget if they'd had to retrain before they
started.

Whenever you start a programming project, there's a lot more to choosing
the platform than just picking the best one. You also need to consider
what the developers are already familiar with, what spec server you have
available, whether useful code already exists in a particular language,
etc.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: david potter [mailto:djpotte@p...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:25 PM
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on this site?
> 
> 
> Just wondering why WROX isn't using ASP.net on this site.
> 
> dave
> 

Vs.net forces use of code behind? Can't I write code inline if I want to
in vs.net?


-----Original Message-----
From: David Barnes [mailto:DavidB@w...] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:51 PM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on this sit
e?


Web Matrix is great if you're the sort of person who'd be tempted to use
Notepad over VS.NET. It's simple, it's quick to learn, and it's free.
I'm not going to say it's better than VS.NET... clearly VS.NET is an
expensive and very powerful piece of software.

But if you're working on your own, aren't worried too much about code
reuse, and want to conserve money and disk space, it's a great little
editor.

Web Matrix doesn't support many of the clever features of VS.NET,
particularly it doesn't support code behind. But there are a decent
number of people who love Web Matrix specifically because it doesn't
force you to use code behind for everything. Different strokes for
different folks, I guess.

I'd certainly recommend everybody tries it out. Particularly if you
don't want to splash out money and hard disk space on VS.NET. There are
a few people I know who have stopped using VS.NET to develop ASP.NET
pages -- and now use VS.NET to develop class libraries, and Web Matrix
to develop the user interface.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: soltisa@W... [mailto:soltisa@W...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:15 PM
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on this sit

> e?
> 
> 
> Can you please elaborate on Web Matrix?  Does it work with
> Visual.NET or is
> it a whole new editor? VS.NET puts interDev to shame, if Web Matrix is
> better I can't wait for the download to finish. 
> 
> Alvin Soltis
> PCS Center Technology
> "The less you have, the less you have to worry about"
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Barnes [mailto:DavidB@w...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:01 PM
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on 
> this site?
> 
> 
> Because we wrote it before ASP.NET was available, and it
> still works. If we
> were starting again from scratch I'm sure we'd use ASP.NET. 
> But if it aint
> broke, we won't fix it! ;)
> 
> On the other hand, when we recently redesigned Wrox.com we
> went straight for
> ASP.NET -- and it made building the site much faster because 
> (using Web
> Matrix, the free tool from Microsoft) we could just drag and 
> drop controls
> onto pages, instead of manually coding absolutely everything...
> 
> On the *other* hand, the new site www.wroxdirect.com, uses ASP3. Why? 
> Because the developers who wrote it were already ASP 3 wizzes, and it 
> would have blown the site's budget if they'd had to retrain before
> they started.
> 
> Whenever you start a programming project, there's a lot more
> to choosing the
> platform than just picking the best one. You also need to 
> consider what the
> developers are already familiar with, what spec server you 
> have available,
> whether useful code already exists in a particular language, etc.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: david potter [mailto:djpotte@p...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:25 PM
> > To: aspx_beginners
> > Subject: [aspx_beginners] Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on this site?
> > 
> > 
> > Just wondering why WROX isn't using ASP.net on this site.
> > 
> > dave
> > ---
> > Change your mail options at http://p2p.wrox.com/manager.asp or to 
> > unsubscribe send a blank email to 
> > 
> 
> 
> 

David never said you are forced to use code behind in VS.NET. You can use
inline with VS.NET if you wanted.

As for the question on Web Matrix, DW, and FP I only looked at Web Matrix
for 10 minutes and I would pick that editor over the other two.  And if you
have the money go with VS.NET.

Alvin Soltis
PCS Center Technology
"The less you have, the less you have to worry about"


-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Smotritsky [mailto:alex.smotritsky@v...] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:12 PM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on this sit e?


Vs.net forces use of code behind? Can't I write code inline if I want to in
vs.net?


-----Original Message-----
From: David Barnes [mailto:DavidB@w...] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:51 PM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on this sit e?


Web Matrix is great if you're the sort of person who'd be tempted to use
Notepad over VS.NET. It's simple, it's quick to learn, and it's free. I'm
not going to say it's better than VS.NET... clearly VS.NET is an expensive
and very powerful piece of software.

But if you're working on your own, aren't worried too much about code reuse,
and want to conserve money and disk space, it's a great little editor.

Web Matrix doesn't support many of the clever features of VS.NET,
particularly it doesn't support code behind. But there are a decent number
of people who love Web Matrix specifically because it doesn't force you to
use code behind for everything. Different strokes for different folks, I
guess.

I'd certainly recommend everybody tries it out. Particularly if you don't
want to splash out money and hard disk space on VS.NET. There are a few
people I know who have stopped using VS.NET to develop ASP.NET pages -- and
now use VS.NET to develop class libraries, and Web Matrix to develop the
user interface.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: soltisa@W... [mailto:soltisa@W...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:15 PM
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on this sit

> e?
> 
> 
> Can you please elaborate on Web Matrix?  Does it work with Visual.NET 
> or is it a whole new editor? VS.NET puts interDev to shame, if Web 
> Matrix is better I can't wait for the download to finish.
> 
> Alvin Soltis
> PCS Center Technology
> "The less you have, the less you have to worry about"
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Barnes [mailto:DavidB@w...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:01 PM
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on
> this site?
> 
> 
> Because we wrote it before ASP.NET was available, and it still works. 
> If we were starting again from scratch I'm sure we'd use ASP.NET.
> But if it aint
> broke, we won't fix it! ;)
> 
> On the other hand, when we recently redesigned Wrox.com we went 
> straight for ASP.NET -- and it made building the site much faster 
> because (using Web
> Matrix, the free tool from Microsoft) we could just drag and 
> drop controls
> onto pages, instead of manually coding absolutely everything...
> 
> On the *other* hand, the new site www.wroxdirect.com, uses ASP3. Why?
> Because the developers who wrote it were already ASP 3 wizzes, and it 
> would have blown the site's budget if they'd had to retrain before
> they started.
> 
> Whenever you start a programming project, there's a lot more to 
> choosing the platform than just picking the best one. You also need to
> consider what the
> developers are already familiar with, what spec server you 
> have available,
> whether useful code already exists in a particular language, etc.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: david potter [mailto:djpotte@p...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:25 PM
> > To: aspx_beginners
> > Subject: [aspx_beginners] Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on this site?
> > 
> > 
> > Just wondering why WROX isn't using ASP.net on this site.
> > 
> > dave
> > ---
> > Change your mail options at http://p2p.wrox.com/manager.asp or to
> > unsubscribe send a blank email to 
> > 
> 
> ---
> Change your mail options at http://p2p.wrox.com/manager.asp or to 
> unsubscribe send a blank email to 
> 
> ---
> Change your mail options at http://p2p.wrox.com/manager.asp or to 
> unsubscribe send a blank email to 
> 

You can write inline code but then u loose the feature of intellisence,
which i am sure any newbie or even serious programmer wont want to

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Smotritsky [mailto:alex.smotritsky@v...]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:42 AM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on this sit
e?


Vs.net forces use of code behind? Can't I write code inline if I want to
in vs.net?


-----Original Message-----
From: David Barnes [mailto:DavidB@w...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:51 PM
To: aspx_beginners
Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on this sit
e?


Web Matrix is great if you're the sort of person who'd be tempted to use
Notepad over VS.NET. It's simple, it's quick to learn, and it's free.
I'm not going to say it's better than VS.NET... clearly VS.NET is an
expensive and very powerful piece of software.

But if you're working on your own, aren't worried too much about code
reuse, and want to conserve money and disk space, it's a great little
editor.

Web Matrix doesn't support many of the clever features of VS.NET,
particularly it doesn't support code behind. But there are a decent
number of people who love Web Matrix specifically because it doesn't
force you to use code behind for everything. Different strokes for
different folks, I guess.

I'd certainly recommend everybody tries it out. Particularly if you
don't want to splash out money and hard disk space on VS.NET. There are
a few people I know who have stopped using VS.NET to develop ASP.NET
pages -- and now use VS.NET to develop class libraries, and Web Matrix
to develop the user interface.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: soltisa@W... [mailto:soltisa@W...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:15 PM
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on this sit

> e?
>
>
> Can you please elaborate on Web Matrix?  Does it work with
> Visual.NET or is
> it a whole new editor? VS.NET puts interDev to shame, if Web Matrix is
> better I can't wait for the download to finish.
>
> Alvin Soltis
> PCS Center Technology
> "The less you have, the less you have to worry about"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Barnes [mailto:DavidB@w...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:01 PM
> To: aspx_beginners
> Subject: [aspx_beginners] RE: Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on
> this site?
>
>
> Because we wrote it before ASP.NET was available, and it
> still works. If we
> were starting again from scratch I'm sure we'd use ASP.NET.
> But if it aint
> broke, we won't fix it! ;)
>
> On the other hand, when we recently redesigned Wrox.com we
> went straight for
> ASP.NET -- and it made building the site much faster because
> (using Web
> Matrix, the free tool from Microsoft) we could just drag and
> drop controls
> onto pages, instead of manually coding absolutely everything...
>
> On the *other* hand, the new site www.wroxdirect.com, uses ASP3. Why?
> Because the developers who wrote it were already ASP 3 wizzes, and it
> would have blown the site's budget if they'd had to retrain before
> they started.
>
> Whenever you start a programming project, there's a lot more
> to choosing the
> platform than just picking the best one. You also need to
> consider what the
> developers are already familiar with, what spec server you
> have available,
> whether useful code already exists in a particular language, etc.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: david potter [mailto:djpotte@p...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:25 PM
> > To: aspx_beginners
> > Subject: [aspx_beginners] Why doesn't WROX use ASP.NET on this site?
> >
> >
> > Just wondering why WROX isn't using ASP.net on this site.
> >
> > dave
> > ---
> > Change your mail options at http://p2p.wrox.com/manager.asp or to
> > unsubscribe send a blank email to 
> >
>
>
>