Yeah, months ago I tried joining the "other" php lists, but it was during a
time they were having problems and I never got in to it.  Never had the
desire to try again since I'm pretty ok right here.

I got a reply from Rasmus.  He said it was to offload traffic from their
main webserver... so I'm assuming they have port forwarding set that any
traffic on port 8000 gets redirected to a different server.  I asked him why
they just don't use a different hostname with port 80 and I am waiting on a
reply...

Adam Lang
Systems Engineer
Rutgers Casualty Insurance Company
http://www.rutgersinsurance.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nikolai Devereaux" <yomama@u...>
To: "professional php" <pro_php@p...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 3:15 PM
Subject: [pro_php] Mailing lists, and Re: Why are they doing this?


>
> > Is there any good reason why they are doing this?
>
> They like pushing your buttons... =)  I've never seen a nonstandard port,
> especially in the 8000's, that wasn't being used for a secure (https)
> connection.  That's really strange.
>
> I know there's several mirrors, but if you need that distribution, I can
put
> it online on one of the servers at UCSD for you.
>
> > I went to download the newest source code of PHP from the php.net
> > site.  As soon as I clicked the link, my connection was refused
> > because my firewall told me to piss off.  Ya know why?  For some
> > silly reason they are using port 8000.
> >
> > http://www.php.net:8000/distributions/php-4.0.6.tar.gz
> >
> > It is s*** like this makes firewall rules hard to do because no
> > one wants to stick to standard stuff.  If I want to allow file
> > downloads in the firewall, I should not have to worry about any
> > ports outside of standard port 80 and port 53.
> >
> > I'm already in a pissed off mood, so if anyone has an email
> > address for PHP to complain to this about, I'd appreciate it.
>
> Here's where the mailing lists come in.  I don't know if there's the
typical
> (web, webmaster, support, tech, sysadmin, root)@php.net email address, but
> there are several mailing lists on their contact/support page which are
> there for the developers of PHP.  Sadly, none of them seem to have
anything
> at all to do with the site itself.
>
> Is anyone here a subscriber to the other lists?  I find that this list is
> generally all I need.  I haven't done any PHP programming in a while now,
> but it's still nice to be able to read other people's questions, learn
> something here and there, and hopefully be able to give some sort of help
> when possible.
>
> > Yeah, I know I could go to another place to download the code,
> > but the point is I shouldn't have to!
>
> Yeah, I agree.  I don't think that the fact that php.net is hosted by
> chek.com should have anything to do with them putting the downloads on a
> separate port.
>
> Good luck, and sorry...  Let me know if you want me to put it up at UCSD.
>
> Nik
>