Nope, VB.NET is Six characters long, and C# is only two.  Pac was smaller
than Biggy.  However, I do agree, Biggy Blows - As far as cool goes, VB.NET
is every bit as cool as Pac, so no disrespect meant to VB.

-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Johnson [mailto:philliptjohnson@h...]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 6:46 PM
To: pro_VB_dotnet
Subject: [pro_vb_dotnet] Re: How long will it take


No way, if any language is Tupac its VB.NET

Biggy Sucks big time.

RIP Tupac, may you rest in peace, hope VB.NET stays around for a little
longer though ;-)

Phillip

> Yep, it's turned into something reminiscent of a hip hop battle with
VB.NET
being Biggy and C# being Pac.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Ruthven [mailto:mike@c...]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 10:38 AM
To: pro_VB_dotnet
Subject: [pro_vb_dotnet] Re: How long will it take


Glad to help.  One last bit of advice: stay away from the VB vs C#
thread.  A lot of zingers down there. :)

Mike

dbaker@c... wrote:

>Bob, Mike;
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. I have already learned the hard way about
>commenting the code, a lesson worth learning indeed, where were you when
>I started LOL. I understand your other suggestions, and will heed them.
>Always good to learn from others who have traveled a path to learn from
>them. I Thank You for your advice, suggestions and guidance.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>>Dave,
>>
>>
>
>I have 20 years of programming experience.  The majority of this
>experience
>was with IBM midrange systems like the AS400 and RPG programming.  2 years
>ago I started messing around with the .Net technology.  I already knew
>some
>VB so I chose VB.Net.  I also decided to use ASP.Net rather than windows
>development.  The hardest thing for me was learning the object-oriented
>techniques.  Its really not that hard to learn but coming from the top
>down,
>left to right, procedural programming environment, it really seemed
>strange
>at first.  Also, web development was different for me because of the
>stateless nature of web pages.  If you are new to programming then it may
>actually be easier for you.  So my recommendation is to really learn "best
>practices" right from the start.  Learn OO, n-tier, stored procedures,
>etc.
>Be careful when you are looking at web sites with examples that do not use
>codebehind and class files.  Sometimes there are some good examples but
>for
>readibility purposes I guess, they will have chunks of code as scripts in
>the asp.net page.  This is the not the proper technique.  So if I were
>you I
>would really concentrate on "best practices".  What do you more
>experienced
>folks think about this?
>
>Thanks,
>Bob
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "D" <DBaker@c...>
>To: "pro_VB_dotnet" <pro_vb_dotnet@p...>
>Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 3:00 PM
>Subject: [pro_vb_dotnet] Re: How long will it take
>
>
>
>
>>Mike,
>>
>>    Thanks for the feedback, answer. What if your fairly new to, just
>>getting started in ANY programming language?
>>Dave
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Mike Ruthven" <mike@c...>
>>To: "pro_VB_dotnet" <pro_vb_dotnet@p...>
>>Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 2:56 PM
>>Subject: [pro_vb_dotnet] Re: How long will it take
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>That's a tough question.  Depends on the person and their background.
>>> In my experience, if you are proficient at the principles of
>>>programming, then learning syntax is relatively straightforward.  I
>>>started from scratch in VB .NET in January, and would consider myself
>>>relatively proficient now.  I'm no expert, but I have developed a
>>>relatively sophisticated project (Database stuff, driving Word through
>>>COM).  But I've done a lot of C/C++ and Motorola Assembler stuff, so I
>>>count myself as a relatively proficient programmer in general.  That's
>>>my 2 cents.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>dbaker@c... wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have been watching, learning from some of your posts, and I have a
>>>>question. How long will it take for a newbie, being self taught, to
>>>>become proficient at VB.NET?
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