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BOOK: ASP.NET 3.5 Website Programming Problem Design Solution
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Default HOW TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH THE BOOK

THIS BOOK SUCKS, YOU CAN NOT FOLLOW THIS BOOK FROM START TO FINISH AND DEVELOP A SITE. THE BOOK TALKS ABOUT DOING EVERYTHING BUT IT NEVER TELLS YOU WHERE TO ADD THE CODE TO THE PAGES. IN CHAPTER 1 IT JUMPS ALL OVER THE PLACE TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAS TO BE DONE BUT WHEN YOU TRY TO FOLLOW THE BOOK AND ACTUALLY DEVELOP THE SITE IT DOES NOT EVEN POINT YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

FOR EXAMPLE THE CSS IN CHAPTER 1, THE BOOK TELLS YOU ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO DO BUT IT NEVER TELLS YOU WHERE TO PUT THE CODE. LATER IN THE CHAPTER IF YOU LOOK AT THE THEMES YOU CAN FIGURE OUT THAT THE CSS TALKED ABOUT GOES IN TO ONE OF THE THEME FILES. NOT ONE TIME DOES IT SAY CREATE A FILE FOR DARK BEER AND ADD THIS CODE TO IT. I AM EXTREMELY PISSED OFF ABOUT THIS BOOK AND I WOULD LIKE A REFUND OF MY MONEY BUT I KNOW THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. THANKS A LOT WROX FOR ALLOWING SUCH A POS TO BE PUBLISHED. TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY BUT THE ONLY PEOPLE COMPLAINING ARE THE PEOPLE WHO PURCHASED THE BOOK AND ACTUALLY NEED TO DEVELOP A SITE LIKE IT. I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER WROX BOOK IN MY LIFE.

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THIS BOOK SUCKS, YOU CAN NOT FOLLOW THIS BOOK FROM START TO FINISH AND DEVELOP A SITE. THE BOOK TALKS ABOUT DOING EVERYTHING BUT IT NEVER TELLS YOU WHERE TO ADD THE CODE TO THE PAGES. IN CHAPTER 1 IT JUMPS ALL OVER THE PLACE TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAS TO BE DONE BUT WHEN YOU TRY TO FOLLOW THE BOOK AND ACTUALLY DEVELOP THE SITE IT DOES NOT EVEN POINT YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
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I found this book very useful. This book is meant for person who already has experience with website development with ASP.NET. I think you should read ASP.NET 3.5 unleashed or professional ASP.NET 3.5 first then you Will definitely enjoy this book.
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Default I have to agree with PO'd Developer...so far...

I'm just really getting started with this book, and I've read several other books on ASP.Net 3.5 development. I've been working with it for a couple of years and am very comfortable with the development environment and both primary languages (VB.Net and C#). But, there are some things that I'm seeing in this book so far that are significant problems.

In the "Solution" section of chapter 1, for example, the example code has you set references to two custom controls (FooterCopyright.ascx and ThemeSelector.ascx). This is the first time these controls are referred to. The code to create them hasn't been presented yet. The only thing I can infer from this is that the author assumes that, rather than trying to follow and implement the examples from scratch, the reader is expected to download the code from the website...But, that begs the question of why begin the Solution with "First, create a new website project in Visual Studio .Net 2008..." (if you expect everyone to download the code and work with that).

Similarly, the presentation of the content of one or more CSS files without specifying the files or the folder structure to use to implement themes (as has been alluded to throughout the chapter) is just poor presentation. How difficult is it to add a few paragraphs instructing the reader to add a "Theme" folder named "X". Create a Stylesheet file named "Y" and add the following to it:... ?

I've also found several minor editing glitches that have made a few sentences difficult to read / follow. For example the following from the highlighted block of text on page 35: "By specification, all browsers stop everything until the entire script is loaded and evaluated; this mean loaded from the server or inline scripts." I'm assuming that they merely left a "s" off the word "means"; but, this definitely could have been stated more clearly. If my interpretation is correct, I'd have rather seen this written as "By specification, all browsers stop everything until the entire script is loaded from the server or inline scripts (which also come from the server - unless they can also be loaded from local cache - right?) and evaluated."

I'm hoping that this level of sloppiness doesn't persist throughout the rest of the book. The time I have for skills development is limited, and I simply can't afford to spend hours (over the course of the whole book) trying to decipher how to do something that could have been simply explained in the text. If the book continues in this manner, I'll probably ignore the text and simply reverse-engineer the example code. It'll be faster.
 


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