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The ASP.NET 4.0 Website Programming: Problem - Design - Solution Early Access Program is now open.

Here's your chance to have a major impact on the next book and application in the ASP.NET Website Programming: Problem - Design - Solution series, and learn a lot about ASP.NET 4.0 along the way.

http://leedumond.com/blog/wanna-help-me-write-a-book/

I am really looking forward to getting as much feedback as possible from all of you.
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Default Will it be in C# or VB?

I hope it will be in C#, as in the previous edition by Marco Bellinaso.

Also, please make the code example easier to read. The layout of the code examples in the ASP.NET 2.0 one is very good, but those in this Chris Love's one is quite bad, e.g. the example code in p.242 with a lot of unnecessary left indent, making a lot of unnecessary line wrap.
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Also, please make the code example easier to read.
I'll try my best.

Thanks for the suggestions!
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I was not thrilled with the way the WROX template did code formatting and I did spend a lot of extra time trying to get those things to layout better. So I do apologize for that. I did have them go back and relayout several pages because they did not format the way I left them etc. But sadly that is one of the problems you get into when you deal with producing a book with a major publisher.

There is a C# version of the application's code, http://thebeerhouse.codeplex.com/Sou...leCommits.aspx
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In case anyone is interested, there is a live running version of CycleMania (the application that will accompany ASP.NET 4.0 Website Programming: Problem - Design - Solution) that you can play with without having to download any source code:

http://cyclemania.dotnetpro.co.uk/

The live site is updated via continuous integration on each build. New builds are being released about once per day.

It's not the fastest server in the world, and it's running in a VM, so if the db times out just hit it again. ;)
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Thanks for everyone's interest in Lee's ASP.NET 4 book. To keep the forums organized and not overwhelm the 3.5 book forum with 4 issues, I've created the ASP.NET 4 category, this new forum for Lee's book, and moved the existing "preview" thread here.
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I would definitely take into account the reviews on amazon for the 3.5 website as they did put me off buying the book in the end.

I think a section on the ADO.NET entities framework would be good.

Having not purchased a book from this series before I do not know if they include exercises with answers but if they do then put a chapter in with the answers at the back instead of making them downloadable.

The downloadable answers don't tend to include explanations to the solutions which the "Answer" chapters do and this is very helpful.

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Will,

This book will pretty much pick up where Marco's ASP.NET book left off. That means a basic familiarity with 2.0 will be all that is required, so you won't be missing anything from not having read the 3.5 book.

There will be information on EF.

As far as exercises go, there won't be any. It's not a classic "textbook" per se.

In each chapter, there are three sections: the Problem section, the Design section, and the Solution section.

In "Problem", we think about the goal we want to accomplish or feature(s) we want to implement.

In "Design", we look at the different ways to approach the "Problem". We discuss the pros and cons of each approach, then settle on one.

In "Solution", I show how to implement the chosen "Design" to solve the "Problem".

Does that make sense?
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