hi, I wondered, I dont know a whole lot of HTML and dreamweaver, I just use it to put my flash stuff up, but whenever I create a sort of frame to border my flash file, when the images surround it are loading its obvious that they are images, cause its got that bitmap logo, just wondered if anyone knew of a way of getting the image to come on without seeing the framing beforehand like this border to the flash:

http://www.wefail.com

really apprecite anyone's suggestions

Hi there,

If I understand you correctly you can create a table (or <div> tags that have the images and your flash animation.

Something like this:

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| |
| Image |
| |
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| | | |
| Im | Flash | Im |
| | | |
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| |
| Image |
| |
--------------------------This way, the outer parts of the animation are simply static images, while the middle table cell contains the Flash animation.

Does this make sense?

Cheers,

Imar

thanks a lot a lot for replying pal, yeah, you got it, do you get what I mean about the imaging while its loading tho?

Kryah.co.uk is like the problem i have where the 2 cd images surrounding the animation have the framing of each individual image there until both images load, how do i get it so that its like wefail.com where both images just come on when they're loaded??

appreciate your help

No, I am afraid I don't understand. What exactly is the problem??

Imar
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If you compare the two sites:

http://www.kryah.co.uk and

http://www.wefail.com

kryah's site to the far left has a picture of a cd split into two. and while the two pictures (making up 1picture of a cd) are loading you see the outline and boxes and that 'bitmap' logo in the middle of each two pictures, however this doesnt happen on wefail, is that any clearer?

I still don't fully get it. I don't see a bitmap logo when I request the page. WHat I do see is a large gap between the surrounding images and the Flash animation.

The other site uses CSS to set the background of the table, instead of directly embedding images in the table cells. Maybe that's an option for you too? They use this:

.bottom {
    background-image: url(images/bigbackerbaby.jpg);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: center center;
}

Cheers,

Imar

yeah i bin reading in to that CSS thing I think your right,

only how do I get my CSS inside a table?
I've got it so's that the image is on the background but when I adjust the size of the page it dont fit with the flash which is in the table in a separate column

You can do the exact same thing as the other site did:

1. Create a large image that serves as the background. Make sure it has a gap in the middle as large as your animation (like this http://www.wefail.com/images/bigbackerbaby.jpg)

2. Create a table with a width and height of 100% (use CSS to set it) with one cell and set the align and valign properties to center and middle respectively (or better, use CSS)

3. Add the flash animation to the (single) table cell, setting the height and the width through the appropriate attributes.

If all this doesn't work, go for your initial solution with a table with a few rows. Read up on "image slicing" on Google to find out how to avoid the gaps between the images and animation.

HtH,

Imar
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this is my problem, thanks for help so far by the way, I've created a file called kryah.css and attatched it to the html doc, so it puts it as background to the whole site, fair enough, but how do I get it to attach it to just the table so that when I resize the browser window, it all resizes/moves together like wefail have done????

this is what I've got so far: http://www.kryah.co.uk/try.html

really appreciate any help

Did you examine the source of the other site? It's all in there.

Just apply your background image to the (single) table cell of your table. If you set the width and height to 100%, the background will always be centered inside the table cell, just as the Flash animation.

If you look at the HTML source and the CSS file of http://www.wefail.com, you'll see how easy it is.

Cheers,

Imar
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