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Old December 14th, 2003, 09:13 PM
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I need the code of Professional SQL Server 2000 Data Warehousing with Analysis Services, but I cant find it and the book. Please help me.



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Hi there,

Please look at the first two questions on the Download Code page that you can find here: http://www.wrox.com/dynamic/books/download.aspx and then read follow the links to the FAQs.

The answer to your question is in there.

What may not be in there (clear enough) is that Wrox went under a while ago. Some of the books and the brand name Wrox have been bought by Wiley. Other books went to Apress.

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Thank you Imar!
But I still can't find the book. Maybe it's too old.

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I don't think you looked good enough, or read good enough.

This book is no longer with Wiley / Wrox, it's with Apress now. Go to the Apress site and click the Download link on their homepage. From there, you can select your book and download the code.

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If you followed Imar's instructions- you would have read the page, rather than just scrolling down looking for the code in the list. If you actually took the time to read what is posted there.. You would have had your answer 2 days ago and been using it.. instead your wasting time here trying to get the answer to a question you never needed to ask.

Copied directly from the TOP of the download page:

What happened to the code downloads for the rest of the Wrox books?
Previously, we had maintained the code downloads for all the Wrox titles as a public service to the Wrox reader community. However, we own the rights only to the code that goes with the works we purchased (see the Code List below) and new works that we will publish. Please contact Apress for information about obtaining code downloads and support for any other former Wrox books.

I'm ready to post a question to P2P asking where to find some Wrox book code I can't find. What should I do first?
Stop and please read the answer before posting this question.


Thank you for taking up our time asking what has already been answered- it has to be at least an hour since I had to give someone else the same information... information freely availible on the site in multiple locations.

... Why is it people who buy books just refuse to read? For our own edification- how could we better present the answer so it actually gets read by people before they post in the forums? What could we have done to get your attention and gotten you to actually read the answer you were provided before you even knew you had a question?


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I think it's a sign of the times, Hal.

People just don't want to take the time to read anything or do any research themselves. It's easier to just post a question and have someone give them the answer than it is to do any work finding the answer on their own.

As I look across the forums in general you would not believe (well, maybe you would :D ) the number of questions posted therein which are easily answered by a quick trip to the documentation. But why bother? It's easier for someone else to do the job for you.

You ask how you can better present the answer to these "where is the code" types of questions. I don't know how you can make it any more obvious than it already is. But like the people who won't RTFM, there is, I'm afraid, nothing you can do about the people who won't RTFF either (That last 'F' is for FAQs). Sigh.

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I agree with Jeff. It's hardly possible to make things clearer than they already are. If you're not reading the first two questions on the Download list, you're not going to read anything at all. You just scroll down the list, see your book is missing and start posting messages.

Maybe there is one thing to be improved. The page starts with this question:
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quote:What happened to the code downloads for the rest of the Wrox books?
If you don't know Wrox went under, you won't know what "the rest of the Wrox books" are. That is, it may be unclear that the original Wrox list was split between Wiley and Apress.

Maybe there should be a large heading with Read This First that explains what happened.

If that doesn't help, I suggest we ban people that post messages with the words Code, Download and book in one sentence ;)

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It is so hard to find code in site.
I am just want to find the sample code in site.
I don't want to waste so much time to read the FAQ.
Why not make it clear to finder like O'Reilly.

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It's so hard because most of the code can no longer be found on this site.

The code for the books that are owned by Wiley is very easy to find. Click the Download Code on top of each page in this site to get a full list. For books that are no longer owned by Wiley, you'll have to contact Apress (the new owner of the books). Wiley is not allowed to offer the code for books they no longer own.

So, for (former) Wrox books that you cannot find at the Download Code page, take a look at http://support.apress.com.

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