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Message #1 by "webmaster" <webmaster@g...> on Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:25:44 -0500
Hi everybody!

 

I'm working on my own "little" website project and kind of need some
help to make sure I'm not messing it up at the very beginning.

 

I did some programming in C++, ASP, and SQL but never did anything that
would embed them all. I doubt I will find a host who will allow C++
programming on a server and I'm not sure if I can set it all up on my
own computer. I have WIN XP professional and I tried to set it up as a
server in a past but that didn't work. I was able to execute my
applications on my computer but I was the only one that could connect to
that page using Explorer. I also had problems with my internet provider
as I purchased static IP and I thought that would give me what I needed
- to have my application accessible from www using that IP or a domain
name. I had trouble with my domain name as well since I couldn't get it
to point to my computer using that IP. Confusing? I'm not sure how to
explain it any better.

 

Now I'm attempting to do the same thing again but I was hoping maybe I
can get some advices here before I start paying for services that don't
work (static IP etc.).

 

So my questions are:

 

CAN I promote my personal computer (actually it's a lap top if that
matters at all) into a server that will be accessible by the IP from any
other computer in the world?

If so, how do I do that, what do I have to do other than installing
Front Page extensions? What kind of Internet Connection do I have to
have?

How do I set it so that certain IP points to my own computer?

 

I would also like to know if anybody has some suggestions on where to
start when it comes to .NET? As I mentioned, I would like to make my own
page, and I want to have things such as forum, chatroom, shoping cart
simulation, database of photos, etc. what are some good beginners books
on these subjects. As I said, I did some ASP and C++ and SQL
programming, but never integrated into one application. I would hate to
throw money on books that explain bare beginners stuff and nothing into
more challenging, but I would hate to get one that assumes I know
everything already.

 

Thanks for all replies in advance!

 

 


Message #2 by "Mike Gale" <info@d...> on Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:20:49 +1300
webmaster wrote:
> Hi everybody!
> 
> 
> 
> I'm working on my own "little" website project and kind of need some
> help to make sure I'm not messing it up at the very beginning.

Some very quick thoughts.

1)  COM objects (whether C++, VB or whatever) were a nightmare for me
under ASP.  ASP.NET gives you a totally different way to publish
compiled code.  It's better than I ever hoped for.

2)  I wouldn't even consider running my own web server.  You have a full
time job fighting against script kiddies, keeping security patches up to
date and monitoring.  Better to outsource your live site.

3)  For development I believe in using a proper server.  IIS 5 for .NET.
I also believe you need more than one in house version of your site to
run a professional operation.  (3 of them Development, staging,
staging-with optimisations is a good idea in my view.)

4)  You need to know a lot of stuff to do this right.  You had problems
with Ip's etc.  I suggest tackling each issue with determination till
you have it licked and could write an article on it.  If you don't get
to grips with these issues I would expect you to have problems later.

Again I recommend a real web server.

I don't know policy on this list for mentioning web site hosting.  I use
one that suits me.  Can it be mentioned here?

Mike Gale, Decision Engineering (NZ) Ltd.

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Message #3 by "webmaster" <webmaster@g...> on Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:45:10 -0500
Hi,

This is the only reply I got so I have to say a special - THANK YOU!

I looked into a lot of host providers and ended up with Dell.
It's not a good solution but that was the best I could come up with.
Money, of course is of great concern, I need reliable service, one that
will survive these IT tournaments, I need contact that I can maintain
over the e-mail rather than having to call them, I need to be able to
change ISP providers and still maintain the service without having to
call them every time I want some change, and of course, I need all of
that cheap.

Another problem, as it must be obvious, I'm a novice to all of those
issues, I'm trying to make something that will primarily help me learn
and maybe sometimes later use it as a reference to my work experience.

If you know a good hosting service that I could use, please let me know,
I don't think they mind that. 

Also if you have some suggestions on books to get that would be great.
As I said, I have plenty about C++ itself and ASP itself and SQL, but
nothing that embeds them into one application. I probably need something
on what they are used for, and something that has built applications
like lot's of Wrox books have.

Thanks again,

elizabeta

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Gale [mailto:info@d...] 
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 3:21 PM
To: Website Programming with ASP.NET
Subject: [aspdotnet_website_programming] RE: All about ASP and .net

webmaster wrote:
> Hi everybody!
> 
> 
> 
> I'm working on my own "little" website project and kind of need some
> help to make sure I'm not messing it up at the very beginning.

Some very quick thoughts.

1)  COM objects (whether C++, VB or whatever) were a nightmare for me
under ASP.  ASP.NET gives you a totally different way to publish
compiled code.  It's better than I ever hoped for.

2)  I wouldn't even consider running my own web server.  You have a full
time job fighting against script kiddies, keeping security patches up to
date and monitoring.  Better to outsource your live site.

3)  For development I believe in using a proper server.  IIS 5 for .NET.
I also believe you need more than one in house version of your site to
run a professional operation.  (3 of them Development, staging,
staging-with optimisations is a good idea in my view.)

4)  You need to know a lot of stuff to do this right.  You had problems
with Ip's etc.  I suggest tackling each issue with determination till
you have it licked and could write an article on it.  If you don't get
to grips with these issues I would expect you to have problems later.

Again I recommend a real web server.

I don't know policy on this list for mentioning web site hosting.  I use
one that suits me.  Can it be mentioned here?

Mike Gale, Decision Engineering (NZ) Ltd.

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Engineering.    





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