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Thermopyle January 23rd, 2013 11:55 AM

After Beginning ASP.NET 4.5 : in C# and VB
 
I'm about to the end of this book, which I've found to be quite easy to read and very helpful. I've looked at the section at the end, which lists what follow-up books are recommended. Unfortunately the Wrox Pro book suggested, Professional ASP.NET 4.5 in C# and VB, is not out and will not be for a while.

I'm looking for a more immediate solution. Any suggestions?

Imar January 25th, 2013 03:54 PM

Hi there,

Yes, sorry about the bad reference. When my book was published, it looked like it would be out soon.

I guess the answer is: it depends. The Pro 4 has quite a lot of useful information, so it could be worth checking it out. However, you may also be interested in other topics such as jQuery, JavaScript, HTML5, Entity Framework and SQL Server. Any ideas in which areas you want to dig further? I don't have recommendations for all topics, but I do have for some....

Imar

Thermopyle January 28th, 2013 01:28 PM

Pro 4 looks interesting, though I'm really hoping that they'll remove the old classic ASP stuff one reviewer mentioned as being a prominent subject of the book--better to focus on the current language than the compare against an old one that doesn't need any attention, IMO. The main drawback of Pro 4 for me is that I don't want to buy it when a new version comes out in a month. :)

What I really would have liked to see is a follow-up to this book, one which takes the same approach of building a webpage, but with more advanced topics. That doesn't seem to be the focus of the Pro book at all, sadly. In its place, what I'd like is a good overall reference. Apress's Pro Asp.net 4.5 in C# is also not out yet (released in April), but their beginning book is structured a bit more like a reference than yours is, and covers some additional topics. I actually started that one before switching to yours (yours is much more readable.) I'll probably switch back to perusing through that one when I finish the last couple of chapters of your book. After that, I'm not sure where to head next.

As an additional question, is there a reason you didn't give any attention to FormView in your book? Both your book and the Apress Beginning Asp.net 4.5 book (which addressed it slightly) ignored it for the most part.

Imar January 29th, 2013 05:35 AM

>> yours is much more readable

Thank you!

>> is there a reason you didn't give any attention to FormView in your book?

Not really, other than space constraints maybe.... ;-) You find a nice introductory article on FormView here:

http://www.asp.net/web-forms/tutoria...s-templates-cs

Cheers,

Imar

vbboyd January 30th, 2013 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thermopyle (Post 288988)
I'm about to the end of this book, which I've found to be quite easy to read and very helpful. I've looked at the section at the end, which lists what follow-up books are recommended. Unfortunately the Wrox Pro book suggested, Professional ASP.NET 4.5 in C# and VB, is not out and will not be for a while.

I'm looking for a more immediate solution. Any suggestions?

I don't suggest this book at all. Because the Professiona on ASP.NET 4.0 C# and VB book said that it required that you have ultimate edition of Visual Studio before you could do any of the examples and exercises in the book. That is why I have shied away from it and went with other books. I think that Apress has some good advanced books that don't require that you have the ultimate edition of Visual Studio 2010/2012. Now if you have the big bucks and want to shell out about $1800 or more for the ultimate edition of Visual Studio 2012 then that is your book otherwise, danger Will Robinson, danger.

vbboyd February 7th, 2013 12:34 AM

What happened to the Professional version of the 4.5 book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Imar (Post 289033)
Hi there,

Yes, sorry about the bad reference. When my book was published, it looked like it would be out soon.

I guess the answer is: it depends. The Pro 4 has quite a lot of useful information, so it could be worth checking it out. However, you may also be interested in other topics such as jQuery, JavaScript, HTML5, Entity Framework and SQL Server. Any ideas in which areas you want to dig further? I don't have recommendations for all topics, but I do have for some....

Imar

There is no follow up to your book, Professional ASP.NET 4.5 in C# and VB yet? I don't see it listed here on this blog board? What is with that? I thought for sure there would have been one by now.

Thermopyle February 7th, 2013 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbboyd (Post 289262)
There is no follow up to your book, Professional ASP.NET 4.5 in C# and VB yet? I don't see it listed here on this blog board? What is with that? I thought for sure there would have been one by now.

It's scheduled to be released next month.

Thermopyle March 4th, 2013 11:20 AM

Looks like the Pro book got pushed back again; it was March, now it's set for a May release. :(

http://www.wrox.com/WileyCDA/WroxTit...118311825.html

vbboyd March 10th, 2013 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thermopyle (Post 289723)
Looks like the Pro book got pushed back again; it was March, now it's set for a May release. :(

http://www.wrox.com/WileyCDA/WroxTit...118311825.html

Gee and I forgot about this string that I created and asked the same question again on different thread in this forum. Ooops! As Homer Simpson would very appropriately say: "Dooooh!" My bad. Like I said in my previous comments, I don't recommend to anyone the new ASP.NET 4.5 Advanced Wrox book to anyone when it comes out, at least not right now because the last version of the Wrox 4.0 book required that you have Visual Studio Ultimate version. Visual Studio Ultimate is a very expensive piece of software that costs about 4 or 5 grand. Not cheap by any standards. So when I saw that, I said no way, don't go there. Don't get that book under any circumstances. I would rather get a different book by Apress that requires only at the very most the Professional edition. At least that is what I read in the last time I looked at on the Book shelf at the local bookstore/library.

Imar March 12th, 2013 03:39 PM

I don't understand why you're bashing that book so much, even more because it's not even published. Is the price of Ultimate a reason to ban this book? Od. Do you ban books about Auto Cad because Auto Cad is expensive? How are people that do buy and use Ultimate supposed to learn the full feature set?

IMO, Ultimate is a very useful version of VS, and the more you can learn about it, the better. But more importantly: most likely 80 or 90 percent of what the book talks about runs fine on Pro or maybe even on the free Express. I haven't read the book (since it's not out), but I am pretty sure it will say something that in order to follow along with all examples, you need ultimate, but that many of the examples don't require it.

And on top of that: you can download a free 90-day trial of Ultimate. Combine that with free trials of Windows in a Virtual PC or Hyper V and you can study as long as you want in the biggest VS SKU without anything.

Imar


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