ty nokomis
thank you very much for the guidance
another question
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im a tactile person, for me to grasp a concept which wouldnt take long, i can memorize like a banchee and all but im a tactile learner and needs the concept shown to me. sadly is that odd?

does anyone know how long it takes for a beginner to fully grasp the concept of C and C++ like monthes? a year im just wondering how long did it take u all to learn it and be honest. no i learned it in 5 hours! or gibberish like that i wanna hear it took me 3 monthes and i had problems with this and that. kinda like that.

ty,
Eric