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Old July 2nd, 2003, 01:45 PM
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quote:But you'll have to concede that "this jargon sense [of deprecate] is not in any mainstream dictionary".
I concede that it's probably not yet; of course, I can't look at them all. But then dictionaries can never keep up with the rapidly evolving English language. Quoting from the article I cited:
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quote:"...the process by which deprecated has developed this new sense in computing neatly illustrates one way in which language change occurs—through extension."
Care to place a wager that you'll see this alternative new meaning in some "mainstream" dictionary in the (very few) years to come? ;)
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I think, however, that the more interesting questions revolve around what's next for Access, now that Jet has been deprecated. Access.NET as the DBMS for SQL Server????
Wouldn't that be MSDE, the stripped down, hobbled version of SQL Server that masquerades as an "Access Data Project"?

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Old July 2nd, 2003, 02:03 PM
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As one of the more flagrant instances of global synchronicity I've encountered would have it, the following discussion is currently unfolding on the databaseadvisors.com forum as we speak. Might be of some interest.

The thread is:

[AccessD] Jet OLEDB provider - deprecated?

Tune in:

http://www.databaseadvisors.com/lists.htm

............................................(from the forum)

While trying to solve an ADO-related problem, I ran across the following page on MSDN:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...us/ado270/htm/

ado_deprecated.asp

in which it says:

Jet and Replication Objects (JRO)
The Microsoft Jet OLE DB Provider and other related components were removed from MDAC 2.6. Microsoft has deprecated the Microsoft Jet Engine, and plans no new releases or service packs for this component. As a result, the Jet and Replication Objects (JRO) is being deprecated in this release and will not be available in any future MDAC releases.

Huh? AFAIK, our machines have MDAC 2.6 installed, and I use Jet 4.0 as an OLEDB provider without any issues.

Am I in for a nasty surprise? I can understand the "no new releases or service packs", but what about the "removed from MDAC 2.6" part?


Brett Barabash, MCP
Tappe Construction, Co.
Eagan, MN
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"One thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse." -Jack Handey

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Each MDAC install contains update/upgrade information which is added to the previous version. You may have MDAC 2.6 checked but the system is really using JET 4.0 from MDAC 2.5

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com

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I thought they removed Jet from MDAC but made it a separate download.

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

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Jim,

Yeah that's right. From 2.4 (or was it 2.5?) on up, JET is now a separate download.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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Must be MDAC 2.7 then.

Thanks,

Jim DeMarco

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Gustav,

Actually if you look back at Brett's original post, he has a link to the article I was thinking of. However I was still off<g>. MDAC 2.5 was the last release that contained the JET components. 2.6 did not have JET.


So, it is probably working because all of these machines are running Windows 2000, which by default would have a Jet 4.0 provider installed.

Good to know. Thanks for the info.

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Hi Jim

Nope. Jet 4.0 is included in MDAC 2.6. Don't know about the "JRO components" though.

/gustav

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Best,

Bob
 
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Hay Guys... Just wanted to create a new database not a new dictionary .... LOL ;)

How about that amusement on an access database forum...

Bob do you think that we could design an improbability drive from your last post ?

Anyway I have decided to use COM and just tell anyone who uses it to install the relevant MDAC version.

Thanks all ....

Regards,
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Good luck with your app, Mark. Glad you enjoyed the detour. And thanks for the post. I learned a lot of things about .NET COM Interop that I hadn't been aware of before.

Bob





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