how can you detect a mouse click off of the form but still the mosue click does stuff.

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in short: a mouse click outside an application shift the focus from the app, that stops receiving events.
The only way to detect a mouse click is to install a mouse global hook via the the SetWindowsHookEx API
Marco

oh ok ya just a mouse global hook.... How abouts would i do that? Should this topic go in VB.net advanced? It sounds a bit complicated but im willing to learn :)

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are you using vb6 or vb.net?
Marco

vb.net and what i did was put a picturebox in the form that was docked as fill then i made that transparent. So the user saw the desktop. When they clicked i dected the spot on the picturebox minimized the form set the cursor position clicked then gave focues to form maximize and set background to white. I'm sure that there is an eaier way but thats how i temperarily solved it. :)

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you are in the wrong forum
try "beginning vb.net" or "pro vb.net":
http://p2p.wrox.com/vb-net-2002-2003-basics-76/
http://p2p.wrox.com/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=67

Marco

oopss

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