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Old January 30th, 2005, 04:39 AM
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Hello Englere, I have sent feed back to you on your site regarding the source for 'The Phile II' could you get in touch with me in regards to getting a copy of your updated source code. You can contact me on [email protected]

 
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Hello Eric,
   I Like this project so much,I have recommdated to lots of my friends,and thanks this nice project for us.

   thanks!

   I'm from Beijing.
   cuiPeng

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Does anyone have source code with one or more of changes mentioned above in it that they are willing to share?

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Englere,

In addition to those items already listed, it would be great if the next version contained:

1) Strongly typed collections for data passing instead of DataSets including searching and sorting capabilities.

2) Real world cashing of collections.

3) User controls that interacted with one another utilizing caching and templates.

 
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Very good suggestion about custom collections and caching! This is one of my design goals in my own coding - I always prefer strongly typed custom collections instead of weakly typed collections like ArrayLists.

Collections are changing a lot in 2.0 with the introduction of generics, so this would be a great subject for the next edition of this book.

However, I think their coverage on user controls was good enough under the circumstances. In ASP.NET 2.0 we can focus on master pages to give us the common header and footer, and there's a new menu control to look at. Our need for user controls will change in 2.0, but they will still be important.

Custom web controls in 2.0 get their own private viewstate collection, so they will take on bigger roles in future designs. Again, a great topic for the next edition.

Eric
 
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Eric,

Another suggestion would be to discuss design consideration for various hosting environments (low end hosting, dedicated hosting, server farms). For example, low end hosting and logging errors, configuration, cache management, etc. Problems with disconnected data access in server farms.

Ernie
 
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Eric, I have noticed reference to The Phile II that you have been working on. Is it possible to get a copy of your updated source code. If so you can contact me at [email protected]

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The second edition of the book covered here: "ASP.NET Website Programming" will be a mid-level book, as was the first edition. But it will be 100% new from cover-to-cover. Every word of that book will be targeted to helping you use the new features in ASP.NET 2.0, and it will introduce a new website having more features than ThePhile.

There's a whole new world in ASP.NET 2.0, as you'll see soon. A lot of things become easier, which gives you more time to learn the advanced things. But this book can only touch lightly on advanced topics due to the real-world limit on page counts.

Deployment is almost deserving of a whole book all by itself. Most beginner books do not cover it, but when I teach classes I always hit on it hard. What good is a ASP.NET developer who can't deploy a website? I think the second edition will have more coverage of deployment than the first edition, but server farms may still be outside the scope of a mid-level book.

The bottom line with server farms: use a state service so session state can be shared, always re-populate cache items if they're not set already, and make sure the machine key is set the same on all the servers so the encryption/hashing will be syncronized.
 
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Kevin,

You can download my code if you want. Look for the link here:
http://p2p.wrox.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=34263

This code is for my modifications to ThePhile, which I call ThePhile II.
This is for Visual Studio 2003.

Don't confuse this code with the upcoming second edition of the book. That will use an entirely different code base designed from the ground up using Visual Studio 2005.

Eric
 
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Has anyone managed to change this project to use windows authentication instead of forms based?






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