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BOOK: Beginning ASP.NET 4.5 : in C# and VB
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March 21st, 2014, 05:43 PM
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New 4.5.1 Book
Hi Imar,
Amazon has notified me that my pre-order book will be delivered on 3-26-14. Great news for those of us using VS 2013.
I assume there will be a new forum for this version of the book?
As you know, I pretty much fall into the "Beginner" category that this series of books is intended for and the great majority of my site is based upon these Beginning ASP books.
My site's hosted on a very inexpensive shared hosting service as this is just a volunteer effort for a low traffic, niche audience. I'm the sole developer and need to be very realistic about the level of technical sophistication I attempt. For me, this series of books and your willingness to answer questions has been the perfect match for my needs.
Thanks for all you do!
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March 23rd, 2014, 03:25 PM
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Grest; I noticed it's shipping from Amazon a couple of days ago too.
As far as I know, there will be a forum for this book. I'll ask Wiley about the status....
Cheers,
Imar
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March 31st, 2014, 10:54 PM
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EF6 New EntityDataSource Control
Hi Imar,
I have the new book now - thank you very much - and just starting to read some of the chapters. Chapter 14 deals with EF and Linq and explains the new model binding methods. I've not had a chance to read it carefully but I didn't notice an explanation of what happened to the old technique for quickly tying an EF model to a control like Gridview - I apologize if I missed that.
In case anyone is interested in what has happened with the old technique - here is a link where I've done a little venting on this subject.
It seems this new control is mostly for migrating existing code to VS2013 and EF6 - which might be very helpful in some cases. I converted all my old EF code to the new model binding methods as Imar describes in Ch 14 and I don't intend to use this new control as it lacks the design features that were in the old technique. However, I do think the old technique was useful for quick prototyping.
Hopefully, WROX will put up a new forum for the new book. Also, will there be a PDF version of the new book?
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April 1st, 2014, 01:59 PM
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Hi Dave,
Yes, Microsoft considers the EntityDataSource suitable primarily for Dynamic Data web sites. For "normal" data scenarios, they recommend model binding instead. At the time of writing, I did't know the direction they were going in; all I knew was that the old one was broken and that they were working on a replacement for EF 6 to be used in dynamic data sites.
I have asked Wrox to create a a new forum for this book.
If I am not mistaken, when you buy a digital version of the book at Wrox.com you get three different versions, including a PDF.
Cheers,
Imar
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April 1st, 2014, 04:09 PM
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E-Book
Hi Imar,
Perhaps that new control would be helpful in a non Dynamic Data site if a person had a lot of data controls using the old EntityDataSource and just wanted to move them along to an EF6 environment. For my site, I simply converted all of them to model binding per our previous discussion about the new book.
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when you buy a digital version of the book at Wrox.com you get three different versions, including a PDF.
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The problem is that I didn't see any E-Book listed on the Wrox site. Amazon has their Kindle version which I find useless as a programming book. Perhaps you could nudge the Wrox PTB to attend to this.
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April 1st, 2014, 04:42 PM
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Perhaps that new control would be helpful in a non Dynamic Data site if a person had a lot of data controls using the old EntityDataSource and just wanted to move them along to an EF6 environment
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Agreed, but it looks like Microsoft has different plans.
For the eBook version, check out this link: http://www.wrox.com/WileyCDA/WroxTit...118387996.html
Cheers,
Imar
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April 1st, 2014, 05:43 PM
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4.5.1 eBook
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Ahh... Sorry, I should have made it clear that I was referring to the new 4.5.1 book - forgot we're still on the 4.5 forum. This link doesn't show an eBook yet.
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April 1st, 2014, 06:26 PM
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Oh, you're right. I made the same mistake. I don't know for sure, but I assume there'll be a PDF version as well.
Cheers,
Imar
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