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Old May 21st, 2010, 10:11 AM
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Alright, ive finished the book so ive decided to write this review for new people that are looking for a book that teach ASP.NET 4. If you've come in this forum for this reason then you're in the right place.

I really loved this book! This book is so amazing, i don't know where to start!

You actually learn a LOTS in the book even if its a starting book for ASP.NET. Actually, ive learned more than expected! This is the first time i buy a WROX book and
i am impressed!

I am a PHP web developper that wanted to learn ASP.NET so i already have a background in web programming but you do not need to have a background in order to read this book!

It is so easy to read and the information is so interesting that each time you turn a page
you want to learn and know more !

Here, a list of the positive things i found about the book :

- Lots of great examples step by step with a section that explain you the whole process each time.
- Code are written in both C# and VB.NET.
- Very comprehensive writting.
- Very informative even if you are an advanced user in ASP.NET.
- The book cover a nice project which go from a subject to another easily.
- The book refers others book in the WROX collection which is useful if you wanna extend your knowledge later and
i really appreciate this cause sometime you never know where to look at after you've read a book! It refer to others place
if you want to dig into advanced subject later which is really great!
- After you've read the book you know how to make complete website using AJAX and JQUERY along with databases!
- Cover LOTS of subject, even cover AJAX and JQUERY.

Since nothing is perfect, i have only one constructive remark about the book :

- I know that this book is not intended to be a reference book but this still would be interessting
to have some reference section somewhere. This reference section could hold the important informations in a chapter so you
don't have to dig inside each page in order to get some important stuff that have been mentionned. But well this is not really
a problem but that would help from memorizing everything. But since its not a reference book this is not a problem at all!

Overall :

If you looking to learn ASP.NET 4 and don't know where to start, get this book! Do not look anywhere else.. just GET this book!
I really recommand it !

A big thanks to Imar, you did a very good job. :-)

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Hi Rushino,

I have just been reading the mail here. And like you I am trying to learn ASP.NET because a couple of good jobs have passed me by not knowing ASP.NET. I have tried some PHP and I do like programming in PHP, though I am just a beginner in it.

The one thing that Microsoft has over PHP, Java, IMHO is it's IDE, you can't beat it. At least that's my experience using Java Beans, and PHP editors, etc.

I am all for open-source stuff, but you have to guarantee the security and the livelihood of a developer or website designer. You should be allowed to hold some of your secrets to yourself if you have done something wonderful, such as invent 'Coca Cola' or that magic sauce for the burger you eat.

That said I believe as I work with ASP.NET I will probably want to purchase a copy since, you can't get the Dll's that protect your code on the web. But that is in the future, VWD 2010 Express is a great tool and free.
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Just for the record: your source code (in DLLs or directly in code behind) is always safe from users on the web. Only people with access to your server or source code can see the source.

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Hi Rushino,

I have just been reading the mail here. And like you I am trying to learn ASP.NET because a couple of good jobs have passed me by not knowing ASP.NET. I have tried some PHP and I do like programming in PHP, though I am just a beginner in it.

The one thing that Microsoft has over PHP, Java, IMHO is it's IDE, you can't beat it. At least that's my experience using Java Beans, and PHP editors, etc.

I am all for open-source stuff, but you have to guarantee the security and the livelihood of a developer or website designer. You should be allowed to hold some of your secrets to yourself if you have done something wonderful, such as invent 'Coca Cola' or that magic sauce for the burger you eat.

That said I believe as I work with ASP.NET I will probably want to purchase a copy since, you can't get the Dll's that protect your code on the web. But that is in the future, VWD 2010 Express is a great tool and free.
Trust me its the best book ever for beginning in ASP.NET. You will be overwhelmed with all the infos in the book :)
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Hi Rushino,

I have the book and agree, there is so much learning in it. Having taught school, I would like to say it reminds me of 'incendental learning. Imar has covered many details of programming and web design, and you can't help but be more educated and more fully ware of the whole scheme of things.

I did mention that I may have to buy a copy of Visual Studio in the future, because I would want to have DLL files that I am under the impression you can't do with the Express Edition, plus the extra speed you get from compiled versions. I know you can compile VB and C# but I am under the impression that VWC 2010 Express doesn't?
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That's not true. You can precompile existing web sites / web applications (see Chapter 19). Additionally, you can use a Web Application Project instead of a Web Site Project(differences explained in Chapter 2) which compiles all code to a DLL.

And for the record: security wise there's hardly any difference between a DLL and source code. In both cases, it can't be read by the outside world, but it can be read by someone with access to the server. To read the code in DLLs, you can use a tool such as Reflector. You can obfuscate your DLLs to make the code much and much harder to read.

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Post I am so interested for the book.

I have never buy that book yet but i am interested on that book. Can you tell me where do i buy it. QA Testing Service
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Well then I am not going to fret the security part. Is the speed of the pages being served slower with the Express Version?
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It depends. If you precompile, the performance should be the same. If you don't, then the first hit to a page / folder is slightly slower as it's compiled on demand.

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Thanks Imar, that's the route I will take.;-)
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