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Old October 20th, 2004, 01:20 PM
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Ron,

Even though you only have Visual Studio.NET 2002, there is nothing stoping you from rebuilding the application. You have already written all the code, so assuming there isn't anything in it that would cause a compatibility problem (few things could cause this) you could easily build the application. .NET Framework 1.1 comes with the necessary compilers. All you need to do is compile your existing code with the 1.1 compilers (which is what VS.NET 2003 would be doing for you anyway). Granted, you'll need to spend a little time with the command line compiler to figure out what you need to do, but this is pretty minor and is probably a lot easier than trying to get the company to shell out the $$$ for VS.NET 2003.
 
Old October 21st, 2004, 08:09 AM
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I recall hearing that the IDE was unnecessary when .NET was first released and that we could program in notepad if we really wanted to do it that way. Thanks for the reminder.

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I assume if Bill thinks he can charge for the IDE to go with FW 1.1 that there are some significant improvements to it as well as the framework? Considering this is only version 1.1, though, I'd expect the changes to the framework were relatively minor and mostly related to fixing the copious bugs and perhaps making the functionality and documentation actually match more often than not. :D Is that the sitution here, or has the meaning of non-.0 releases changed and this is a significant new version?

In the "old days", we expected to shell out for each new major release - VB 3.0, 4.0 (remember that bundle of joy?), and now .NET. But bug patches were free because, after all, the software vendor sold us a buggy product and had an obligation to fix it. This apparent change in policy looks like a way for MS to generate extra revenue simply by requiring we purchase a "new" IDE just to reference an upgraded framework. This doesn't bode well, especially if other vendors decide to go the same route.

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Sorry Ron. Somewhere along the line, I assumed that you were wanting to use version 1.1 in Visual Studio 1.0...

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Old October 21st, 2004, 09:15 AM
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There was no misunderstanding, J, your assumption was correct. I didn't understand I needed to upgrade the IDE. I still don't believe it either (not that I doubt your word - just MS's audacity at charging for a bug fix).
 
Old October 21st, 2004, 11:07 AM
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FYI: Un upgrade from VS.NET 2002 to 2003 is pretty cheap. If I recall correctly, you can get the new version for $49.

If you consider that VS.NWT 2003 is more than just a bug fix release (although not that much more), that amount seems reasonable to me.

Oh, and BTW, didn't we do this before in February?? http://p2p.wrox.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9416

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Old October 21st, 2004, 11:11 AM
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Thanks for the info, Imar!
 
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 FYI: Un upgrade from VS.NET 2002 to 2003 is pretty cheap. If I recall correctly, you can get the new version for $49.
Wow Imar, where did you see this? Everything that I have seen has this in the $400-500 range.

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Old October 21st, 2004, 01:57 PM
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I am not a license specialist, so don't hold me to this.

However, a Google search resulted in stuff like this:

http://www.softbuyweb.com/micvisstudne.html

I must admit I have seen a lot of offers that are far more expensive than this one, so maybe the offer no longer applies...

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<s>The site that you have listed has this at $491, not $49...but it was wishful thinking.</s>

Actually, I was looking at the wrong thing. It looks like it had it for $29, but it expired September, 2003. Another

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Old October 21st, 2004, 03:20 PM
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Right, I see. So, unfortunately, they decided to drop the offer.

It's been a while since I last looked at this, so I am not so surprised.
Sorry for the incorrect information.

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