Here's the problem: I want to make a 100% valid HTML Transitional page. I am using the official w3 validator as my reference. The banner of my page consists of a Flash movie and some text under it.

When I get w3 to process my page, it comes back saying that the <embed> attribute is not supported. I've always <embed>ed my Flash movies, and it works fine, but it seems <embed> is not part of official HTML.

Does anyone know a way around this, or will I have to forget the whole "valid HTML" thing?

Thanks in advanced.

Snib

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The <embed> tag was deprecated in favor of the <object> tag. The syntax is available here:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/fl...ts/tn4150.html
http://www.macromedia.com/support/fl...attributes.htm

HTH!

Regards,
Rich

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BTW: These are often used in combination with one another for BC with older browsers. You can omit the <embed> tag and probably be alright.

Actually I don't think <embed> was ever part of the standards, it was used in NN 4.. I think NN 6 and newer support the <object> tag syntax. So if NN4 matters to you keep the <embed> tag, if not, ditch it.

Regards,
Rich

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Here you go.
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/

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Sorry, posted prematurely.. have a look at my edited replies. The <embed> tag is included for use with NN4.. so using the links I posted use the <object> syntax omitting the <embed> tag. Make sense? The alistapart article meow posted puts it best.

Regards,
Rich

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Thanks to Rich and meow.

I omitted the <embed> element, and it works great. It seems that <embed> indeed never was part of the standards, just Netscape's way of embedding media that they don't even use anymore.

Does NN4 matter to me? Not at all (sorry to the three people that still use it :D j/k).

Thanks again.

Snib

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Actually, the object syntax from alistapart works fine in Netscape 4. If you just use the object code from MM as it is I don't think it will work in anything else than IE and it won't validate.

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Because you use EMBED.

Scrap what I said about MM's object code not being valid. It is. But it only works in IE.

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I use this:

<DIV style="xxxxxxxxx"" class="xxxxx" id="xxxxx">
<OBJECT classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
width="xx" height="xx" bgColor="#xxxxxx">
<PARAM name="movie" value="../xxx/xx_xxx.swf">
<PARAM name="quality" value="autolow">
<PARAM name="bgColor" value="#xxxxxx">
<PARAM name="loop" value="x">
<EMBED src="../xxx/xx_xxx.swf" quality="autolow" loop="x"
    type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="xx" height="xx"
    bgColor="#xxxxx">
</EMBED>
</OBJECT>
</DIV>

This works always good in MSIE 5, 6 Netscape 4, 4.8, 6, 7.1 | Opera 3, 5, 6 | Mozilla 1.6

U may use additional attributes like 'pluginspace'/'codebase' to
let users prompt flash player download, but this slows web page
loading for them, hence I don't.



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i suspect asp request/response more slower than 56kbps dial-up i use. still i wonder how a yahoo java chat applet is so instantaneos!

<OBJECT> is mss' impel, w3cs' spec, better than older netscapes'
<EMBED> , but still if above line of <EMBED> is dropped, lower ones in above listed h've problesms, i've seen, though mise performs.
but still html is like english, we can use it as we like, our pages should work!

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Anshul: How many times do you need to post your "solution"?? This is the third time you've posted! If you aren't comfortable with your post, just edit it ;).

Regards,
Rich

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