If it wasn't obvious from meow's reply, XHTML strict also includes the cellspacing and cellpadding attributes, a look at the DTD for XHTML strict reveals everything possible. Personally, I think that all presentational attributes are bloat, but there are still some cases where these cannot be avoided.

Some thoughts on standards..
My interest for standards is in how easy standards-based documents are to maintain and perpetuate cross-browser and cross-platform. The resources and energy saved by standards is what I'm interested in. Though often times proponents of standards are interpretted as zealots for their relentless promotion of them. So as a bandwagon, I think its a good one to be on board with, as with anything else, the only motivation to be on board is to make life easier, applications easier to develop and maintain. From that standpoint standards are attractive and ****************. Though there is an extreme to be found.. creativity should never be a victim of standards compliance. If a propritary browser widget provides something flashy and creative I'll probably use it, eventhough that's frowned on from the standpoint of standards. That's one of the cool things about CSS, proprietary CSS rarely significantly affects the layout or presentation of a document in such a way that the page can no longer be enjoyed with other browsers on other platforms. The point being, don't be too anal about standards compliance, but be far from apathetic.

Just my thoughts.

Regards,
Rich

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Rich,

I wasn't trying to set up my <div>s like nusrati had his/her table. Didn't have time right then. I didn't specify that real well, so, sorry if it caused any inconvenience.

I'm with you on the presentation attributes, Rich. Much easier to specify them from an external .css file to change things site-wide.

Need those [rant] tags again.... :-)

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