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Old August 27th, 2004, 05:37 AM
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Englere. you are the one who should write books.
I was navigating in the book's forums and I found that you are the one who asnwer all the Questions :-). I hope that you will write a similar book on ASP.NET 2.0 and I will purchase it and I'm sure everyone in the forums will purchase it too. you explain the solutions of the problmes very easy and you are Expereienced Developers and you are the one who should write technical books.

i hope you will read this message. :D
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Old August 27th, 2004, 07:02 AM
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Thanks for your kind words. I like teaching and I'd like to write a book someday, or maybe co-author a book.

I think I'd target the book to a slightly less experienced audience, because it seems most people who are looking for a book of this nature haven't done any medium or large size projects yet. Unfortunately, that means you need more pages in the book if you want to cover the subject pretty well. I like to explain the more advanced matters of design best practices, but that should only follow several chapters of explaining the basics of system design. And maybe some stories about mistakes people have made would be helpful. This is why in-person instructors can be more effective than books: they tell you stories that help you understand why the "best way" would have helped people who didn't do it the "best way".

Wiley bought the Wrox company, and they seem to be putting out a fewer books than Wrox did before this action. I'm not expecting an update of this book, but it would be great to see it.

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:) Englere I think you going to be one of the best Authors in the world. I'm waiting for your first Complete Application from Design to Deploy with ASP.NET 2.0. loool nice title right? :)

I have 2 questions and I hope you can help me.

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I'm new to software development and I have a good knowledge of C#, ASP.NET, ADO.NET and SQL Server 2000 too.

My Question is "HOW MANY HOURS DO I NEED TO STUDY AND REWRITE EACH MODULE ??????????". Just answer me "in average". and by the way, I didn't developed any real applications before.
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Now I will create a solution for my first asp.net web application (using vs.net) and i'm scared that if I have a virus on my PC I may need to format my drive C to reinstall windows (the solution and the projects will be there) and I will lose all the files and all of my code classes.

 I'm thinking to put my projects in another drive like D or E (which I will not format when I restall windows) and the projects will be save there. but now the problem is what will happen when I reinstall windows and install VS.NET? I will have the projects but I don't know how to get it to work. I mean what are the steps of reconfigure IIS and VS.NET to make the project work.

I didn't see a solution for this problem in any ASP.NET book or even VS.NET. YOU MAY ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM IN YOUR FIRST BOOK.
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I hope I'm not wasting your time (I know I'm doing that :()
I think it's better that you write down all the reader's problems and advice for your first book and i'm sure it's going to be a great book.
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Marenela


 
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Engler,
I would certainly buy your book, if you should ever start a teaching course in the UK, Liverpool, I would be the first to enrol.


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You are right eureka :). for me I can fly to the UK if he will teach out there.
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Old August 27th, 2004, 06:30 PM
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1) HOW MANY HOURS DO I NEED TO STUDY AND REWRITE EACH MODULE?

This is very hard to answer. It depends on exactly what changes you want to make to each module. I think most modules need some security fixes, but after that it's up to you to determine what your needs are.

I may publish my code before I change it to meet my unique needs, but I'm not sure if Wiley/Wrox would agree to it. I may just do it first, and take it offline if anyone complains. But it's hard for me to support people - it would have to be an "as is" type of thing. I can answer questions to some extent, but I can't give the kind of support a company could offer.

2) i'm scared that if I have a virus on my PC I may need to format my drive C to reinstall windows (the solution and the projects will be there) and I will lose all the files and all of my code classes

Yes, this is a concern. Most of us make backups of important files on our hard disk to CD-R disks once in a while. If you find a virus one day, and you reload Windows, you have to be very careful about restoring .exe files from a backup (because they might be infected). It should be safe to restore source code files from a CD-R disk.

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Thanks Eric,

 I'm going to send a message to Wrox Press today and tell them to have a look at your posting in the forums. You should be the one who write the next eidtion of the book. I'm really waiting for it. specially if you are going to write it step-by-step for beginners and you know what. I think the book will be around 1,200 Pages and I'm going to buy it even if they will sell it for 70,00$. I'm sure everybody will do the same because It will be complete book.

 about the 2 Questions that I asked you.

1- I think I will not do any changes in the modules but I will rewrite it into my Application. so do u think that one week for each module is enough? (to study and rewrite)?

2- You misunderstanding me when I said reinstall Windows. For example, suppose that I developed my app in Drive E (not C) and after a few days I got a virus and I reinstalled windows. My app's files are intact and they are still in Drive E but now I will have to reconfigure the projects and a solution to get my app work with the new installed VS.NET so how I do that?

Thanks,
Marenela

 
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1) A week for each module sounds too short. It might be enough time for a simple module like advertisements, but I think most modules will take longer.
  The new user registration code needs some work. You probably don't want to ask for a mailing address. Lots of users don't want to give you an address, and you don't need it anyway (probably). I would like to merge the code for new user registration and Forum registration. There should only be 1 place for users to manage their "account" information. I'd have to think about the SQL tables for these 2 registration areas - I don't like 2 sets of user info for each user.
  The File Manager doesn't need much work - I suggest adding Forms authorization to all of it's pages, but that might be all you need to do.
  The News module isn't too hard to understand. I think it would be cool to add RSS (Really Simple Syndication) to this, but it's not needed. You can "syndicate" your news areas by providing people an RSS "feed". If you don't know anything about RSS, you do do some web searches on this. You might want to look at the free SharpReader news program (this is called a News Aggragator). This just shows you the latest news from many sites in one place. RSSBandit is another news aggregator lots of people like.
  The Polls module needs some work - I think it belongs on the left side of the screen, directly under the new menu in the upper left corner. We need a more common type of menu that has mouseover events in Javascript to let the user know which link their mouse is over. The Nav box is dumb and should be removed. This also gets rid of the .xslt requirement. I hope to do this when I get enough free time.
  The Newsletter module probably isn't needed. If you do want it, you can work on it later - it doesn't have to work on the first day.
  The Forums module is the most complex and this will take time to modify. I'd say you should remove the focus on email addresses (because of SPAM), and make a way for people to upload an avatar image. The image could be stored as a blob in the user table. You'd have to check the size of the image and make sure it's small. But, the easiest modification is just to remove avatar support - it's just a cool feature, and not really needed.
   You should also read my ideas here:
   http://p2p.wrox.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16235
I might estimate 2 months for the whole thing, and that doesn't count the time to customize it to add other things, or maybe a new graphic design (which is not my strong suit!). Of course, if you've worked on a lot of web sites before, it might go much quicker than this.
2) You need to understand the nature of a virus. If you get a virus on your system, it will normally affect programs on all your drives - depending on which virus it is. I had a nasty one last year, and I had to reformat all my drives and reload windows. I'm much more careful now about downloading and running programs, and I use both ZoneAlarm v4 (firewall software) and Norton Antivirus. Be careful about trying ZoneAlarm 5 - the first relase of v5 was not compatible with ASP.NET - it caused me a lot of trouble! Of course, a hardware firewall is your best bet if you have a high speed internet connection.

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Thanks Eric,

 Now I have a better clean vision of what i'm going to do. so polls and forms are the worst ones???????? (I mean the longest ones).

 You said one week is TOO SHORT. how many hours did you mean in the week?

 Eric, I will not do any modifications in the modules I will just study them and rewrite them in an asp.net application of mine.

 about the firewall. I downloaded Win XP SC2 and it has a built-in firewall do u think it's enough or I have to download Zone Alarm 4.0 too?

Thanks
Marenela

 
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One more thing Eric, One week is a 70 hours for me (studying 10 hours daily).
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