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Old September 29th, 2006, 03:53 AM
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Default Would this book be helpful in .NET 2.0

Hi, I a newbie is ASP.NET

Recently I bought ASP.NET Website Programming (.NET 1 C# Edition), Im using Visual Studio 2005 and Visual Web Developer and SQL Express. I want to know if the book will still be beneficial?
What changes do i need to make if the project to work in VS2005?

your help will be highly appreciated.


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Old September 30th, 2006, 10:24 PM
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It would be very difficult to port this to VS 2005. It would be possible (though not easy) if you got the Web Application Project download for 2005. This is a free download from MS.

If you get the second edition of this book you'll learn a lot of timesavers and shortcuts to making web sites. But it's a whole new site and not a port of this one.

 
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By the way, neither of these editions is suitable for a newbie. You should learn the basics first, and then come back to this book.

 
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I made my site with this book.

You can see at: www dot azul jasmim dot com (without spaces)

But now I Need to implement an online store and i've seen that version 2 has it!

It's really difficult to mantain my site but upgrade it to the version refered in problem solution... version 2?

The best way is start from zero with a new one?

Thanks,
Max

 
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ThePhile is a version 1.1 site. The only way to upgrade it to 2.0 is to install Service Pack 1 in VS 2005, and then convert this project to a Web Application Project.

TheBeerHouse is an entirely new site built for 2.0. This uses most of the new features in 2.0, and is a great place to start for new projects.

Eric

 
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Thanks Englere! I deduced this

I'm really consider to make a new site with the "thebeerhouse" method.

My problem is that I lost much time to improve fórum of the ThePhille…

I made a system of
private messages,
new topics and old topics since last visit,
statistical features,
etc.
I can make again all this using asp.net 2 new features, but there is thing that makes me confusion in thebeerhouse: I did't find the users' profile database table! I searched all the database tables but I did not find where the "website", "avatar", etc, are stored. I think this is part of a new function of asp.net 2!

To Start a new site i have to know if the TheBeerHouse uses two tables for the users as ThePhille uses: Accounts_Users and Forums_Members

I have a 200 users in my actual site and i want to keep this accounts.

Forgive this offTopic

 
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TheBeerHouse uses the 2.0 Membership system, and the related Profile tables. These all begin with the aspnet prefix. You should get the book to learn more - it's a whole new book, not merely an update.

You can upgrade your existing site to 2.0 using WAP, as I mentioned (after you load SP1). You probably also need a full version of VS2005, and not the Express Edition. This will allow you to experiment with some 2.0 features, while still supporting all of the work you've done so far.

I personally like the forums in ThePhile better than those in TheBeerHouse, but the code difference is astounding. TheBeerHouse packs a lot of features into a much smaller amount of code.

Microsoft has promised to support 2.0 projects for the next several releases, but they made no such promise of the 1.x code. The biggest new feature in 3.x is AJAX, and that's extremely cool. But it's an addon to 2.0, and not a replacement. Wrox is working on the Pro AJAX book, and it should be out in a couple months.

I think I understand your concerns - the rate that technology is growing is very fast. It's hard to stay on top of the new features in each release. Sometimes I wish MS would slow down their release schedule a bit. But I have to stay on top of it the best I can so my career will be strong. If you let yourself get too far behind it might be hard to get a job someday.

Eric
 
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Hello Eric!

I don't want to stay behind too... :)

I already have a professional visual studio 2005 and the thebeerhouse book!
I'm on chpater 3 and i will read it all.

I want to understand the new features!

When i get to the end of book i will think about the stuff that i can mantain and the stuff that i have to do from the begining...

This isn't my way for earn some money! I'm a dog breeder and a civil enginner but i taste to programe.
My passion is macromedia flash and actionscript... But for html dynamic pages i have to use asp.net!

Thanks for all



 
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What kind of dogs do you breed? I've always liked dogs.

ASP.NET is moving in a similar direction as Flash, but using a XAML markup language. You might want to check out WPF/E. This is covered a lot at the adoguy.com site. This is extremely cool, but still premature. This is probably not going to be finalized this year.

Eric

 
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I breed Golden retriever and Labrador.

The first reason for i stop using flash it's because flash content don't appear in search engines like google, etc!

But here you can find a combination with asp.net 1.1, flash, sql, (my first site based on thePhille)

HERE

But i will see WPF/E !

Thanks!






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