Steps forward for a beginner

ronix · September 6th, 2011, 01:14 PM

Hi Imar!

I talked with you a few days ago and also asked a question in the Beginning
ASP.NET book forum !
I have a private question not about the book, i actually wanted to consult
with you about something . i'm about to finish your book in a few days
probably. and i feel like i learned ALOT, but im not sure i can now build a
website as i wish without a problem, i probably will need to get back to the
book alot, and look back, and that's ok. my question is what do you think my
next book should be ? i'm thinking about buying the professional ASP.NET
C#&VB or the ASP.NET MVC 3. The thing is that i want to learn the most
advanced technics which i guess it's MVC, but i'm not sure it's smart to
jump from your beginners ASP.NET book to MVC without the PRO ASP.NET book.
What do you suggest i should do ?

My second question is, i feel like i need some kind of Algorithm to build my
first website after i finish reading your book, i mean, i need some
organized steps, for example :
1. build master pages .
2. build css .
..
or maybe i should first start with more basics things ? what do you think is
the best way to start creating my first website ?

I hope i'm not bugging with those newbies questions.

Thank you so much for everything, your book is a LOT of fun!

Roni .

Imar · September 6th, 2011, 01:21 PM

Hi Roni,

As often in this industry, the answer is: it depends.

What do you feel is lacking in your skillset? Is it HTML / CSS, database technology, pure ASP.NET or experience? In the first two cases, you may want to get additional books on these techologies. Wrox has a number of good books in this area, and you may also want to look at the Entity Framework book from Julie Lerman (not a Wrox book, but a great read nonetheless).

If it comes down to ASP.NET, you may indeed want to look at Pro ASP.NET 4. Although it follows a different pattern than my book it does provide you with a lot of background on ASP.NET.

Finally, for MVC: you don't have to start with the Pro bok. If you feel it may be too hard, take a look at the Beginning ASP.NET MVC book instead. It's not up to date for version 3, but many of the concepts still apply, providing an easier transition into MVC 3 when you get the pro book.

Cheers,

Imar

Imar · September 6th, 2011, 01:53 PM

Quote:

what do you think is
the best way to start creating my first website ?

My book shows most of the route I always take when building a new Web Forms web site Before I start buidling, I typically design it up front. Not necessarily the graphical design (as I completely lack designer's skills) but more in terms of layout, navigation and feature set. You may want to look into a mockup tool such as Balsamiq which I really like. For some other tools I use or used (or at least tried out), take a look here: http://imar.spaanjaars.com/531/sketc...art-1-balsamiq

Cheers,

Imar

ronix · September 6th, 2011, 02:11 PM

Hi Imar !

Thank you for your reply .
The tips you just gave already helps, and i will purchase the Beginners MVC 1 instead of the PRO 3 version. i though about getting the 3 version because the book info say you can start this book if you have just a basic knowledge of ASP.NET, which i gain from your book. but i definitely gonna have an easier start with the other book.

The lack of knowledge i talked about is more in a way which i can't seem to remember all the coding skills, and how to write the right things in the right place, although the IntelliSence helps alot, i find myself need to get back to your Examples to write the code in the right way, for example, because the way you write functions, commands, etc in JavaScript is different than C#, Ajax, JQuerry... so it seems hard to remember where to put the right comma, or what should get in the "( )" of the function .. but I guess there's nothing to do but practicing on writing code over and over again in those different languages .. right ?

I'm exciting to start already, and waiting to finish the book and try myself :)

Thanks Imar .

Imar · September 6th, 2011, 02:15 PM

Well if it helps you: I don't remember all the code I need to write too.I am sure you'll get better with practice, but IMO, you can learn a great deal from the tools such as IntelliSense which help you write code....

Cheers,

Imar