delete profile ??

Any way to delete my profile?

I have tried to use the forums and find that it is not usable for me in its present form. I would like to totally remove myself from the profiles amd anything to do with this web site. There does not seem to be a remove me option on the edit profile area.

I have unsubscribed from all groups except the feedback group because of this message.

[Hal Levy]

You could volunteer to help fix the problems.. ahh no, better to complain about them.

Hal Levy
Unemployed (Thanks GWB)
NOT a Wiley/Wrox Employee

Actually, when the board was reintroduced, I made some suggestions. The problem is it is impossible to follow a thread from the emails sent with each topic. There is no referring back to the other posts on the topic without going to the web. I do not mind going to the web to post or reply, but not just to read what has been sent before.

The forum will never go to true email as the old forum. I understand why it will not and can live with that decision (since it is not mine to make). I still want to remove myself completely so I am not even listed. My profile has my true email address since I do not usually hide behind aliases and no longer wish it to even be on the list.

If the board was written in asp and vb, then yes, I could volunteer to work on it, but I do not believe it is.

[David Cameron]

quote:Originally posted by Hal Levy
 You could volunteer to help fix the problems.. ahh no, better to complain about them.

I'm not entirely sure that is a fair comment.

I've been thinking about your last comment on the the email system for some time. I think we are talking at cross purposes. Consider my perspective. I volunteer my time for free to help people with programming problems. On top of volunteering my time for that, you are now asking me offer my help to build an email system from scratch. No matter that I am working full time (sorry Hal, this isn't a dig at you), and that I have a life outside my job. No matter that I look at the week ahead and can count the hours of my time that are not accounted for on the fingers of one hand.

Also I'm not certain how offering advice on how to get an email interface on the p2p site up and running suddenly become an issue for me to design and implement a solution to the problem. I was under the impression we were offering suggestions.

I understand Wiley's perspective. They have bought the site and name, spent some money getting things up in the way they thought best, and they aren't really keen on spending more money on the site. My belief is that if Wiley *were* interested in an email interface and put some weight behind it then it would happen.

Let me be frank. p2p started as an email interface. Most of the people who made wrox what is was, ie those who answered the questions, liked the email interface. If an email interface isn't added the experienced people may leave. Speaking personally I'm not happy with the current situation. I'm leaving for a new job this coming Wednesday and I'm tossing up whether to remove all subscriptions to forums and stop answering questions on the same day, basically because of the email thing. There is no question in my mind that I'll stay with other lists (email based) I'm currently on.

Hal, none of this aimed at you. I appreciate that you are in a difficult position. But I also believe that without an email interface, p2p will degenerate. Wiley may be perfectly happy to lose the experienced posters, thinking that others will come to replace them. This may be true, but there is an equal chance those experienced people may not be replaced.

regards
David Cameron

[SerranoG]

quote:Originally posted by Hal Levy
 You could volunteer to help fix the problems.. ahh no, better to complain about them.

 Hal, please don't let frustration turn into bitter sarcasm. Understand that the vast majority of the people on here (including me) are not experienced enough to help fix problems on this board. We can make suggestions and hope some of them are doable by Wrox. If Wrox cannot or will not do something, I won't lose sleep over it. The people on here who are experienced enough to do something probably are at that level that they're busy with their own work. :(

Either way, a better response to this request would have been something akin to, "I'm sorry you feel that way. Currently the only way to delete a profile is to ask a moderator to do it. Instead of leaving, can you stick around a offer suggestions on how to fix it?"

Yeah, a lot of people complain and never suggest. We have that here at my job. Oy... But your frustration will meet with hostility if unchecked.

As for the e-mail interface, personally I don't need it and so I'm not one of those screaming for it. I find it a much better organization of my time to set a few minutes a day scrolling through the boards on the web and then leaving it alone until the next day instead of it coming to me on interrupting e-mails throughout the day. So I have to click here and there to view, so what? I'm sitting at my desk, not getting up and walking somewhere to see these. My gut reaction to the anger in some letters is, "Are people that lazy that they want everything to come to them?" But hey, customer service is all what it's about, ain't it?

Greg Serrano
Michigan Dept. of Environmental Quality, Air Quality Division

[JSample]

mshukayr:

As a Wiley employee, I am sorry that you are leaving and that the current P2P site does not meet your needs. I do urge you to check back from time to time though. As we have stated in the past, we will work on an e-mail interface in the future, we were just hoping that the community could work on it faster, since we have very limited resources this year.

Thank you and I will delete you account now.


James Sample
Director, IT-Infrastructure
Wiley Publishing, Inc.

[Hal Levy]

David, I hapen to agree with you- I don't think P2P will ever return to it's orignal greatness without the email interface. I certainly understand people who are employed having less time than me- even unemoployed I find "stuff" to keep my busy.. I was dissapointed when the APRess forums went up to see that they are ALSO web based and not email based. I think P2P has a rough road ahead without an email interface, and that's why I think it so important to implement that I am wiling to invest the free time I have in it.

Greg, I certainly understand that everyone doesn't have the experience to help out with a project like this one. Quite frankly, the project will challenge me (if we ever get it going) on how to develop it. I have never written a system designed to ACCEPT mail before- I have been debating a number of design possibilities. You are correct, I am getting quite frustrated with some of what's going on and probably should have reacted better.. probably why I get to sign my messages....

Hal Levy
Unemployed (Thanks GWB)
NOT a Wiley/Wrox Employee