CSharpToday

[ddosen]

As a paying subscriber to CSharp Today, I would like to know who owns the content to that site information. Can you pass that information on? The current subscribers have been wronged, and have legal rights to that content. As subscribers, we may need to simply ensure our rights are managed as a whole, potentially as part of a class-action suit against the former owners or new owners of that content.

Since the material already exists, it should be relatively inexpensive to allow that content to be made available to subscribers at least on a temporary basis.

As a subscriber, we have rights and should stand up for them.

[Hal Levy]

1. Wiley bought the domain name, not the content or subscriber list.

2. Any claims you have are against Peer (The parent company of WROX before it was liquidated). As has been posted elsewhere, you can file against Peer as an "unsecured Creditor" and pray there's money left (I am sure the money is all gone by now, anyway)

3. I don't know who you could sue- as the "owner" of the content, Peer, no longer exists. No one bought, it seems, the content or the subscriber list.

THis is what happens when companies go out of business. I have had magazines go out of print while I was a subscriber. I even got jipped on my "hot sauce of the month" club when they went out. There's no one to "go after". I mean, you can try an sue anyone you want- but you might as well sue Toyota because of a problem with your Honda...



Hal Levy
Unemployed (Thanks GWB)
NOT a Wiley/Wrox Employee

[jminatel]

Daniel:

Wiley does not own the content and therefore, even if it were easy from a technology standpoint, we have no right to distribute this content to anyone, even temporarily.
We also don't know who might own it. We are not privy to the details of any transactions the liquidators made with any other parties regarding any portion of the Peer liquidation other than what we bought. We're not privy to the details of the author agreements Peer had in place with the people who wrote the content that was there either.


Jim Minatel
Senior Acquisitions Editor
Wiley Technology Publishing
WROX Press

[ddosen]

Thanks for the response. I hear what you're saying. I feel the need, as a wronged party in this transaction, to perform the due-diligence to investigate my rights and along with those of the other subscribers. The information from that site has a real value – value that the creditors, liquidators or potential buyers of the content will realize if they try to sell it, in part or in whole.

Can you forward the contact information from the liquidators in this case? I can try to follow up with my own legal representation.

I’m not even asking for a refund in this case where I’d get cents on the dollar. I’m looking for the content and to help others that were wronged in this case.

[int200]

Greetings,

I just recently purchased an electronic copy of "An Introduction to GDI+" Copywright by Wrox Press. for $20.00. There are several references to support material for the article however all links to the ftp site ftp://ftp.csharptoday.com are not working. You state below you do not take any money however I just saw this electronic book on amazon.com and purchased it. Please point me at the location I can find the support material for the article I just purchased online at amazon.com yesterday. Complete reference:
C# Today, www.csharptoday.com "An Introduction to GDI+" by Thomas Johansen.

Sincerely,

Wrox Customer.

quote:Originally posted by jminatel
 Responding on behalf of Wiley and Wrox, we did not purchase asptoday.com or csharptoday.com along with the Wrox name, books, wrox.com, p2p.wrox.com, and the other web sites we did purchase.

So, no one at the new Wrox can comment on what the new owner of those sites might have planned for them, or even if there is a new owner.

If there is someone out there who does know definitively what will happen with these sites, we'd welcome an answer here.

As for the issue of email responsiveness, I apologize for my own inability to keep up with the email that has been coming in in the weeks since we posted my email address on the wrox.com home page. I (and I think most of the editors are in a similar situation) have received on average 300-400 additional emails each per week needing either technical support for a book, information about site status, and other questions. We've tried our best to answer every question, or forward it to someone who can answer. On average, we've each accomplished 48 hour turnaround on responses except on weekends. Due to the volume of email, some may have similpy been missed and I am sorry for that.

Finally, regarding the asptoday.com and csharptoday.com, Wiley and the new Wrox did not take anyone's money or receive any subscriber money after our purchase of Wrox assets. We have no involvement with those sites operationally or financially nor have we at any time in the past.

I apologize for the confusion created by this.

Jim Minatel
Senior Acquisitions Editor
Wiley Technology Publishing
WROX Press

[jminatel]

The ebook you purchased is owned by APress, despite what the listing says on Amazon and despite what the copyright in the ebook says. This ebook was published in 2002, prior to the situation that lead to our ownership of some Wrox books (http://www.wrox.com/misc-pages/booklist.shtml) and the name for new Wrox books starting in 2003.
You'll need to contact APress regarding both that book and the site.

Jim Minatel
Senior Acquisitions Editor
Wiley Technology Publishing
WROX Press