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Old July 8th, 2004, 11:04 AM
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Trying to understand this resolution thing a little more. I have a 17" monitor set to 800x600 which is most comfortable for my eyes. If I change it to 1024x768 it's a little harder on my eyes. If I set it to any resolution highter than 1024x768 it's way too small.
I also have a notebook computer with a 15" screen. 800x600 is just too big, so I use 1024x768. 1152x864 is useable but output is getting pretty small. 1280x1024 is out of the question.

Now I know there are circumstances where very high screen resolutions are used for spreadsheets or other programs that you want to see as much information on the screen as possible.
But here I'm just talking about resolutions for normal Web browsing.

Since I don't have a 19" or 21" monitor to try the higher resolutions, I don't know how output looks on those size monitors.

Again, for normal use and Web surfing, where would those higher resolutions come into play? Large size monitors?

Would you say that statistically, a large percentage of monitors are set at either 800x600 or 1024x768?

Would appreciate it if you would offer your opinion on this.

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Hello,

They say the standard should be 640 x 480 (factory default) a while ago, but the industry has changed more towards 800 x 600 as the default, with the size monitors lately. I use 1152 x 864 on my 19" home monitor. Remember too that it's not just the screen resolution. In most programs, you can adjust the font size.

For example, IE has 5 font size options, which can adjust the size for the user (View > Text Size). In addition, most editors (like Visual Studio .NET) will adjust the font size for the text editor, so that it is larger. That's what I've done on my work computer. I think my work computer is 1152 x 768, and I enlarged the text so that I could see it better while getting a larger view.

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There's really no way to say. I use 1280 x 1024 on both my 22" and 17" CRT monitors. When I program I prefer a high resolution to see as much of the code as possible. The possibilities are endless. For a fixed width site, most design to 800 x 600, which has been the default for some time for new systems, people viewing at 640 x 480 are still possible but are in danger of extinction as far as statistics are concerned. I think that MSN TV uses that resolution.. but.. anyone trying to design for that ****box is going to lose their mind before its said and done anyway, its far worse than explorer on standards compliance -- if that's possible. :)

Some computers even come at 1024 x 768. I worked for Best Buy for a while a couple years ago, and none of the computers I set up in the store then used 640 x 480, in fact I don't even think it was available as an option. Since no one can know for sure what the user has in mind, a liquid design is always the best. With a liquid design using primarily CSS to control layout you can set an upper limit on the width and a lower limit on the width and use relative font sizes and measurements, like em and px. This allows the site to adapt to several target resolutions and not become unusable if the resolution is smaller or larger than the upper and lower limits.

Trying to look at statistics is a futile undertaking.. its really difficult to get a truly scientific sampling. And if you did manage to get a sceintific sampling, all websites have different target audiences and different trends amoung the users. So its really best to target as many as possible instead of just one resolution or another.

If you need some comfort in numbers, here's one statistics page:
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

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Hi Rich,
 
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quote:If you need some comfort in numbers, here's one statistics page:
Thanks for the statistics link - pretty interesting, was wondering what the percentages were.
 
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quote:Since no one can know for sure what the user has in mind, a liquid design is always the best. With a liquid design using primarily CSS to control layout you can set an upper limit on the width and a lower limit on the width and use relative font sizes and measurements, like em and px. This allows the site to adapt to several target resolutions and not become unusable if the resolution is smaller or larger than the upper and lower limits.

Funny you should mention this, I just finished setting my Web page to work using the liquid desing using mostly CSS. Now, it doesn't matter what resolution the user has there screen resolution set to, everything fits perfect. I had actually set up my site to fit 800x600 resolution and another separate Web site to fit 1024x768. Boy, I don't have to tell you that was a lot of work, not to mention the space used for all these files on my hard drive and server. I had a redirect script that looked at the users screen resolution and sent them to the site which best fit there screen resolutions, but I know I was missing lots of people that had higher resolutions set. There are several resolution possibilites now so have to make the site fit them all, but re-writing each one is impossible. The liquid design/CSS works great. I had Imar from this forum help me out with this. He knows his stuff when it comes to CSS.

Anyway, I appreciate you feedback :)



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I had Imar from this forum help me out with this. He knows his stuff when it comes to CSS.
haha.. he certainly does ;)

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quote:I had Imar from this forum help me out with this. He knows his stuff when it comes to CSS.
But I always consult Richard when things get too tough for me.... ;)

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Can you please tell me what the "liquid design/CSS" is?
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Read up :-)

http://www.mardiros.net/liquid-design.html

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