thsnka for the ideas.
I didnt want to convert the database as some colleagues still have 2000, plus I was worried that the jet oledb wouldnt work.
However I just tried converting it and everything still works, BUT the problem stil remains . I tried different record lock types too
I had already double checked the open type, but thats correct. now I am really stumped.
Next port of call is that the 2002 upgrade is coincidental and its a security access user id issue
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