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Default IS ASP.NET Compatible With Windows Vista?

I am just a beginner who has keen interest in designing web pages using new technology. if i use win vista as an operating system and asp.net to design website . will this website work successfully without any flaws .

And if i use vb.net with asp, will my website have all the options including security etc..?
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Hmm.

First off, a web site that is developed in ASP.NET can be viewed by anyone on any operating system through any web browser regardless of what operating system their machine has on it. (A mac user will see similar results as someone viewing the site on a Win Vista Machine.)

However, to actually host your website and serve it out to the world, the application needs to be on a platform that supports the framework and the framework also needs to be configured with IIS. (Windows Server 2000, 2003, 2008, Windows XP, Vista, etc are some of the operating systems you can host the website on HOWEVER, while you can host a website on XP or Vista, you are limited to the number of people that can view your site at one time which is 10)

So, for developing, you could host the website on your machine to test and such but you will actually need to find a web host that supports ASP.NET to place it on the internet so that you can overcome the 10 User Limit of XP or Vista.

I do not understand what you mean by this, can you please elaborate:
And if i use vb.net with asp, will my website have all the options including security etc..?

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Yes my other question is :
>net package includes vb.nett , c#.net right ?
Now when we talk that i am using asp.net to build my website ,
do i have to use vb.net along with it .. and does it really makes a difference if we use C#.net ... cos some ppl says its good to use vb.net and some says c#.net when building your website using asp.net

Also you have suggested me to find the web host which dont have limitations till 10users to view my website .N number of user can view it . Do you know which one will be better . i would really
appreciate your help and patience ...



there are so many questions running into my mind which i will ask one by one ..Waiting for reply

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First I will answer about the webhosts. Personally I use: http://www.smartechcorp.net/ which is part of: http://www.airnetgroup.com. Their hosting is extremely reliable and the Techs are spot on and responsive when I need changes made to the Server/Database. In any event, no 2 web hosts are the same but all Windows hosts will be running IIS on a Server platform which doesn't limit the max connected users to 10. (By default IIS 6 is set to allow 100,000 connections) You will have to ask the webhost speicfically about any such limitations or restrictions.

Now your question about C# vs VB.NET. This is something that, if you look, is fought about the world over on forums everywhere and, by and large, it is the people in the C# camp that take every oppurtunity to bash the VB camp. (Though VB programmers do give it as good as they take it)

Plainly put there is nothing that you can do in C# that you can't do in VB.NET and vice versa the languages are, for all intents and purposes of this post, the same.

Unfortunately, alot of people in the industry will look at a resume and think:
C# == C++
VB.NET = VB 6.0

so, with that said, it is far and away easier to find a job as a C# developer then as a VB.NET developer. (This may depend on your locale though but, for my locale, VB.NET developers are in extremely low demand) I would go with what you are comfortable with, if you are coming from a VB background your learning curve with .NET is going to be alot lower if you use VB.NET instead of C# and vice versa with C++ developers.


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well i havent read vb in my life . i just bought a book asp including vb.net .. i have rad c and c++ a long time back almost 5yrs ago and not in touch .. i also bought C# book . i have bought domain from godaddy .com .my friend says its easy to learn vb.net rather than learning c#.But according to me nothing is impossible ...


 Suggest me shall i go ahead and start learning C#.. the website which i want to build its for my friend not for the company ..so does it contains all the same features as C# contains ...?

You are more knowledagle than me so you will be the best person to answer this ..
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I would recommend learning C# if you have no preferance one way or the other but "easy" is a relative term. Consider:

C#
foreach(ListItem item in cb.Items)
{
   item.Selected = true;
}

VB.NET
For Each item as ListItem in cb.Items
  item.Selected = True
Next

Both code snippets do the same thing in the same amount of code. (What the code does is irrelevant)

C# makes you pay more attention to detail, for example:

C#
int i = 0;
i += 5;
I += 5; <-- This line fails because I is not declared only i is declared

VB.NET
Dim i as Integer = 0
i += 5
I += 5 <-- This is legal and will compile

So with that said, C# is a case sensitive language and VB.NET is case insensitive. As I said, I would suggest C# but there is nothing wrong with VB.NET so what you decide on is a matter of personal preferance.

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Suggest me shall i go ahead and start learning C#.. the website which i want to build its for my friend not for the company ..so does it contains all the same features as C# contains ...?
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Well i mean to say that the website which i will build and launch is for my friend and i want to make it more commercial . You have given weightage to C# . But as a fresher in this field, do you think i can build up the website with in 2 months starting from November month.

         I am very worried because i promised her that i will help her on her project . But the book which i bought it contains coding with vb.net .do i have to buy another book for asp include c#. but i do have separate books for C# and Vb.net
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Well there is a difference between C# and VB.NET and ASP.NET.

For example the book Beginning Visual C# 2005, in the beginning of the book all you work with are Console Applications (programs that run from a Command Prompt) and you move your way around to Windows Programming and touch on ASP.NET towards the end of the book. C# and VB.NET can be used to build all sorts of applications and ASP.NET applications are one of those types BUT the methodologies you use in the different types of applications will differ.

So, for what you want to achieve, you will want a Beginning ASP.NET 2.0 book that uses C# or VB.NET because, generally speaking, Beginning C#/VB.NET books generally focus on all the different things that the language can do and is not as focused on one particular type of development.

This Wrox book might be a good fit for you http://www.wrox.com/WileyCDA/WroxTit...470042583.html it is Beginning ASP.NET 2.0 with C# and it runs about $40.00 USD but, what you might want to consider is a subscription to http://wrox.books24x7.com its $50.00 USD per 3 months or $175.00 per year and it gives you access to a wide array of the Wrox Library where you can read any of the posted books in its entirity there. The aforementioned book is one of the books that can be found on there.

Personally I have an account there and it beats other similar services IMHO.

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You are absolutely right i was reading C# and found myself nowhere.
As you mentioned that i will get asp.net 2 including c# codes in any book store .
Now the question here is :

Do you think after following this book i can make a website with in 2mnths?
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Well, it depends on what functionality you are envisioing for this website. Do I think you could follow that book and create a website with some basic functionality in 2 months, yes I think that is possible. Do I think you are going to create an overly complex N tiered web application in 2 months by following that book, no. (That isn't to say it is not possible as alot will depend on how well you grasp the concepts of .NET programming, if you already have a background in programming, etc)

The book in question is almost 800 pages so it is going to cover alot of ground. While you could probably sit down over the course of a weekend and read the entire book I don't know how much of the subject matter would sink-in.

What do you hope to accomplish at the end of the 2 months? What is your vision of this website?

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