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Yes, Lee I am using LINQ to Entities, it us just easier to do that from my perspective. I may have some examples with ESQL, but I am still on the fence. I am working hard on that chapter this weekend, so we shall see.
Hi Chris,

While I don't agree with the choice of VB as the primary language, I think L2E over ESQL is definitely the way to go.

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Just for my information can you post that survey you are talking about. Because from what I have seen and witnessed, VB.NET is in a decline.

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+1 on this. I'd like to see where this stat comes from, and more importantly, how old it is.

Either way, it's important to consider that this series of books is presumably targeted toward advanced programmers, where C# is most definitely the language of choice.
doesn't quite give any meaningful stats on vb.net vs c#, but the old tiobe index is worth checking occassionly, even if only to have a quiet chuckle at:

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/conte...pci/index.html

as well as scott h's little article here:

http://www.hanselman.com/blog/Commen...0-5593fe3eb206

(comment 11 January 2008 05:54:02 (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) on that page kinda sums up my thoughts on the issue)

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Jimi,

Bottom line: Any statistics regarding the "overall" use of VB over C# are meaningless in the context of this discussion.

I have no doubt that VB is more popular when you take into consideration the vast number of newbies and casual/hobby programmers. But considering the fact that this is not a beginner book, but is rather aimed toward more advanced/professional types, VB seems like a rather odd choice.

It will be fun to see what happens when Wrox puts out two new BeerHouse books, each in a different primary language. I can't wait to read the Amazon comments...

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Just a reminder: there will still be both C# and VB downloads.

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Good point Jim.

One thing I will grant is that if you count "second languages", VB is probably more prevalent. In other words, most C# guys have at least a working knowledge of VB, whereas the converse is not necessarily true.

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any idea on when the books will be released ?

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Early 2009. Still enough work to do that I don't want to pin it down closer than that.

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I am adding a photo gallery, no built in video support, but you could modify it to support uploading videos. I have used it for that in the past. KISS

URL Rewriting and SEO are big for me, so yes search engine friendly URLs are in play. A SiteMaps.org site map handler is also included, using XML LIterals for the VB version.

AJAX a much as possible.

Auto posting to Twitter

BTW, stored procedures are not needed by EF and LINQ, in fact they make it less flexible. I am leaving the existing procs in my database for backwards compatability, but I am not using them.

Nested Master pages with CSS Layouts

AJAX authentication

RSS httpHandler using XML LIterals

I am not using the EntityDataSource, I think the DataSource controls hurt n-Tier principles in general. The EntityDataSource flattens the model to UI and Datastore. So I am pretty dogmatic about that.

Anyway, any constructive feedback is much appreacitated. If there is something you do not like feel free to post that too.

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Hey Chris,

I tried to respond to your emails, but I got this:

Delivery to the following recipients failed permanently:

   * chris@extremewebworks.com

Got an updated email address for me to try?

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Also Chris, it sounds like you've got a sound plan going so far. One thing I hope you focus on is not repeating the mistakes and omissions from the previous edition. I've pointed out several of those already; both here and on the asp.net forums.

 


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