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April 18th, 2005, 01:37 AM
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hello sir,
i have doubt in asp.net,
how to validate checkboxlist in asp.net using validation control
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April 19th, 2005, 01:01 PM
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May 3rd, 2005, 05:49 PM
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cool, got the exercises, although I made due with what I had, (just the book) and did my own exercises I conjured up in my mind.
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May 31st, 2005, 11:07 AM
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Only 1-12?
where the others?
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June 25th, 2005, 02:51 AM
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I have to say, as someone trying to learn C# as a first programming language, and as someone who bought this book which was highly recommended...this lack of answers to the Exercises is the most frustrating thing I've ever encountered.
I'm not sure about the rest of you, but I intend to write the new publishers and ask for a refund.
Donno Cole
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June 26th, 2005, 06:21 PM
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All exercise answers for "Beginning Visual C#" are now posted in the P2P Forum. Navigate to "P2P Forum > Books > Beginning Visual C# > Beginning Visual C# Exercises - Chapter ?? Answers" where ?? is the chapter number. [This is a repeat of my November 2, 2004 posting].
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October 13th, 2005, 11:02 AM
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by nikolai
Personally, I think that a lot of you people complaining are silly whiners, and you're acting like a bunch of kids. I'm surprised that some of you aren't replying with "LOLOL j00 got Own3ed!!!"
Many of your arguments and insults are pretty meaningless. For example:
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quote:Originally posted by AMeyer
I can't believe what I'm reading here - I bought this book yesterday, really couldn't understand why the exercise answers had to be 'hidden' on a server, and now I'm in total disbelief that a backup of the answer files is nowhere to be found! And you folks call yourself "Computer Experts"?
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Nobody at Wiley Publishing is calling themselves "Computer Experts". Wiley Publishing is a *PUBLISHING* company. Their job is to hire authors to write books, print these books, and sell them. The computer experts are the authors, who in most cases have no affiliation with Wrox Press or Wiley other than an agreement that they will recieve some monetary compensation (a royalties check) for each book sold.
The employees of Wiley Publishing have made it very clear that they purchased the Wrox Press brand name and many of their assets AFTER the original Wrox Press closed down and had their crap sold off at auction in an effort to pay off their debts.
They've been working hard at getting a lot of mangled stuff put together for their Wrox Press customers, on top of keeping the REST of their publishing labels running smoothly.
Consider this analogy: You have a restaurant that you love. You go to it all the time. The restaurant closes down, and a new company buys the building and reopens the restaurant. The original cooks don't work there anymore. Their menu still exists, but the recipe books are gone. Shortly after reopening, customers come in asking for old menu items, which the new restaurant owners can't provide, which means the customers throw a hissy fit and storm out, declaring "I'll never eat here again! I thought you guys were FOOD EXPERTS!"
Does this make any sense? The new owners are BUSINESS PEOPLE. They run a business, and they sell food. The food they sell might be excellent -- as good or better than the previous menu, but since it's not the menu you're used to, you think it sucks.
I have only this remaining to say to you.
There are two kinds of programmers: those that need the answers and those that figure out the answers. If you're of the first type, then go buy another book or ask someone here to answer all your questions.
If you, like me, are of the second type of programmer, then take the time to write a little test script to see if your answer is correct. If it's not, try to figure out why not. Try new things. If you get stuck, THEN ask for assistance.
It might take longer, but I GUARANTEE that the time will be well-spent. You'll come away knowing a lot more about the programming languages you think you're "learning" by reading an intro book.
Here's a news flash: You can't learn ANY programming language in 21 days. You didn't learn how to add by looking at the problem and then looking up the answer -- you learned math by working the problem for yourself, and checking your answer with the answer pages.
The nice thing about programming is that you don't NEED the answer pages! You can just run your program and see if it works as expected. See if the output is correct, whether it crashes or not, whether error messages appear, etc.
You can't learn a programming language by reading a book. The answers might make sense when you read them, but you're sure as hell not going to REMEMBER that when you sit down to write your own applications.
I'm willing to bet that you could've written a simple test application in about as much time as it took you to read through this thread and reply with a useless one-line insult.
And to those of you who made it this far, let me add something else: I'm not trying to be a dick. I may sound harsh, but that's because I CARE about this profession. I don't want people to get into programming because there's good jobs with good salaries to be had. I want to work with people who put forth an effort into what they do -- I have a responsibility to myself and my peers by being the best programmer I can be, and to help other people become better programmers if I can.
The more mediocre programmers that exist in today's workforce, the worse off I look for being just another programmer.
Programming is one of the few fields that someone who buys a $40 book can enter. You can't become a doctor or a pilot by reading a book, anymore than reading a cookbook makes you a chef. You can read the recipes and say to yourself "That sounds easy", but until you get in the kitchen and try out the recipes will you actually learn how to make the dish.
Take care,
Nik
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Wow, great post and I would not have replied if I didn't get :
Fatal error: Call to undefined function: xslt_create() in /home/httpd/vhosts/bigaction.org/httpdocs/index.php on line 23
when clicking your link.
Maybe you should have written a little test script to see if your web page worked.
Cheers.
-Mark
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October 13th, 2005, 11:26 PM
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I, for one, fully agree with nikolai. I may not have the experience he does, but I sure as hell would love be that second type of programmer. I will be the first to admit I check out the answers from time to time, but only if I can't figure it out on my own. But being new to any C style language, it's not easy.
On that note, I would like to thank seblake on his great work on providing his interpretation of the possible answers to this books examples. It must have taken some time and effort to do, none of which he was probably paid for.
nikolai, again, you are 100% on the money with your post about figuring things out on our own.
Jael
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June 27th, 2006, 10:12 AM
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well, I only got the answers from chapter 1 to chapter 12, as well as chapter 19 and 20...By any chance could anyone send me the other answers by email ? great appreciate that!! or give me the link to that answers is also okay.
my email: [email protected]
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March 11th, 2007, 05:40 PM
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I just bought the book "Beginning Visual C# (Programmer to Programmer)" at amazon.com, then I came here to download the code, see errata, etc. and...I cant even FIND the book on the website. All thecomments for this book go back to 2003. It's 2007: where's the code? Where's the errate?
Sincerely,
Sleeper
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"I have not failed. Iâve just found 10,000 ways that donât work."
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