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Old October 15th, 2003, 02:24 PM
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Default iis.msc equivalent in IIS for Win XP Pro?

I'm using Windows XP Pro and I bought wrox Beginning Active Server Pages 3.0 and I'm trying to get through the first chapter wherein I install IIS and set up the MMC to administer my web server. (I'm not sure what version of IIS is installed -- whether it is 5 or 6. I did install it successfully, though.) But there does not appear to be a file called iis.msc to select in order to get the IIS snap-in running. (Referred to in the wrox book on page 26-27.) Can someone please give me a clue?
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First, you should check if IIS is in your system.Im using Windows 2000 so Im not sure for the info below.Check if you can find Internet Services Manager icon in Control Panel -> Administration Tools. If there is one, double click and you'll get the MMC. Im not sure if the path is the same for XP Pro

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Kostas,
Okay. Thanks for the prompt. I can go to Control Panels > Administrative Tools > Services -- and I get a window for Services that looks like the MMC window. In here I find that one of the Services is IIS Admin. Its status is "Started" and it's set to start automatically. This tells me, I think, that IIS is installed and I can administer a web site on my local drive.

Next I need to see if I can see an ASP page from my web browser... I'll try this when I have a moment and let you know the result.

Thanks again!
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Okay! I entered http://my_server_name/localstart.asp into my web browser address window and bingo! I got a default Welcome to IIS 5.1 page and another window opened with IIS 5.1 documentation. Pardon my wet-behind-the-ears enthusiasm, but this is COOL!

In the documentation under Getting Started is "Quick Site Setup in IIS", which should put me on the right track to creating and viewing pages.
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They've done a pretty good job of hiding thing like the IIS MMC on Win XP ;)

If your set-up is the same as mine was, you have to do some fiddling around to find the program. When you click the Start button, can you see an "Administrative Tools" option on the right-hand side of the start menu?(underneath Control Panel)

If not, here's what to do:
1. right-click the Start button and choose "Properties" from the pop-up menu
2. In the dialog that comes up, choose the "Start Menu" tab
3. You should see 2 radio buttons, with "Start menu" selected. Click the "Customize" button next to it
4. In the next dialog that comes up, choose the "Advanced" tab
5. Look in the middle scroll box entitled "Start menu items". Scroll down and you'll see an item called "System Administrative Tools". Change the selection for this item to "Display on the all programs menu and the start menu".
6. click OK twice to close both dialog boxes.
7. Now when you click Start you should see a new option "Administrative Tools". Click that and you'll see lots of goodies including "Internet Information Services". That's the one you want for the IIS MMC.

Phew!
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Phil,
Thank you!
Please excuse the nauseating deluge of details that follows! Here is a description of what I can find when I look for the IIS snap-in for the MMC. But where is that snap-in?

I can see Administrative Tools in the Start menu, but Internet Information Services is not one of the submenu items. Currently listed are Component Services, Computer Mangagement, Data Sources, Event Viewer, Local Security Policy, Performance, Server Extensions Administrator and Services. But no IIS. This is perplexing.

If I open the last of these, the Services option, I get the MMC-style window I referred to below (in my posting on 10/16 at 9:29), namely, a list of all "Services (Local)", one of which is "IIS Admin". You can see this on your machine, I suppose. The description for the IIS Admin service mentions the IIS snap-in. The snap-in is definitely what I want to use, but I'm still stumped as to how to open MMC and access it.:(

The IIS 5.1 Documentation that comes with Win XP (http://localhost/iishelp/iis/misc/default.asp) tells me to open the IIS snap-in by right clicking on My Computer to find IIS under Services and Applications. Actually, I have to right click on My Computer, select Manage, and then I can find Services and Applications in a directory listing in a window called Computer Management. But IIS is not one of the four subdirectories under Services and Applications.

Listed under Services and Applications are Services (again same as above), WMI Control, Indexing Service, and Message Queuing.

Needless to say, I feel like a real .

Here's another wrinkle. (If you are still reading this, let me just thank you for your plentiful good will.) The instructions at http://localhost/iishelp/iis/misc/default.asp also say that I can create a shortcut to inetmgr.exe. Presumably inetmgr.exe has something to do with the IIS snap-in. Or maybe it _is_ the snap-in. If I try to OPEN inetmgr.exe, I get an alert from the MMC that says "Snap-in failed to initialize."

I can go Start > Run > MMC. But if I go to File > Add/Remove Snap-in... , under Standalone I click on Add... , but IIS is not listed as an Available Standalone Snap-in.

I am a novice when it comes to Windows Administration, which does not help matters.

I should add that ASP is working and I can save an ASP page into the wwwroot directory and view it in my browser. But where oh where has my IIS snap-in gone?
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Something is wrong with IIS installation. You should not be getting the "snapin failed to initialize" message.

I would try uninstalling IIS, and reinstalling it.

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Thanks, Ken.
I did so, and it worked like a charm. IIS is now available under Administrative Tools.
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Hi RealDHelix,

I've just started going thru the Beginning ASP book and appear to have the same problem you were having - easy to read post's BTW! :D

I have Win XP Home ... but a part from that the problem sounds the same as yours.

My question, and it's a dumb one - How did you uninstall the IIS? :-/

I can't see it, so I'm not too sure how to uninstall the thing?!

Help..and tnx in advance.

AJ

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Greetings!
Let me say first that I am impressed with the Wrox p2p forum because this thread dates back to October but I just got the notice that you, designbyaj, contributed. So here's my reply.

You may want to confirm this with others on this site, or maybe even CompUSA or some other retailer can tell you, but I think you need XP Professional to run IIS.

I was going to recommend a site where you can get an inexpensive upgrade, but I just checked and they don't appear to be at the URL I had for them.
Good luck!

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