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Hi,
Wiley cannot give a direct link to Apress's site as you wish. There are legal reasons for this. In our FAQ is the web site area where the code is housed with Apress. It is support.apress.com. Wiley did have all Wrox book code here, but we had to remove the code for books we did not purchase at Apress's request. I have been away this past week, so I apologize for not getting this information to you sooner.

If you cannot find the code at apress's site, you'll need to contact them directly at support@apress.com

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Thankyou for the response.

I dont intend to persue this thread any more, as I think my point has been made regarding the code download. The book says one thing and the web site says another, but its not very clear. Maybe its an issue that APress should be addressing.


Just ONE more thing, on the front of the book is a link to www.beginningdotnet.com , but the domain does not even exist according to www.checkdns.net . Is this an error?

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That is something that you'll need to address with Apress. They should have purchased all URLs pertaining to their books, but I'm also not sure if that is an author managed site. They can better help you.

Sorry for the confusion.
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Well naturally the book says one thing, the site another. I doubt whether APress or Wiley would recall all books printed so far on Wrox's presses just to update the web links. When a company goes under things are bound to change.
Personally I'm glad someone has continued the Wrox tradition and am prepared to put up with minor irritations rather than have no books at all. Likewise with this forum. Mr. Levy and others have pointed out hundreds of times the facts and have tried to help and they're not employed to do this.
I typed in the title of the book and "download code" into Google and got a URL in the top dozen which listed all the former Wrox books together with links for their code:
http://support.apress.com/1861007507/7507.zip


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hmmm I must be using the wrong google because all I got was all the stores like Amazon et al trying to sell me the book.

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quote:Mr. Levy and others have pointed out hundreds of times the facts and have tried to help and they're not employed to do this.
I am aware of this, and appreciate it, but on my first visit to the site, I was NOT aware that Wrox were "a company gone under" as you say.
So "the book says one thing, the site another", is not natural if the information is not smacking me in the face. Dig down a bit and yes, it does become obvious that this has happened.
So I come to the forum for help and after a search, am greeted with "I found it in 20 seconds" and "Did you read what was written in the thread?"
I did, and it didnt help much.
So I apologise for not knowing Wrox had gone under, not knowing the code could be downloaded from APress and not knowing exactly which page on APress the link is to their Wrox book downloads.
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That's why there's a FAQ. You should always check FAQ's- they usually have the answers you need.

See, I am used to dealing with USERS who don't RTFM- Technology people should know better.

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If I had known there was a FAQ in the forums, then I may well have done, but as I didnt know that, my first instinct was to use the search function, as most Technology people prefer this to scouring FAQ's. And this is where I was brought to from search.

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I don't see anywhere earlier in this thread that you assisted anyone by telling them to "check the FAQ - the answer is there" But the FAQ is how I eventually found what I was looking for. Dont presume that every USER has been here before and knows where the manual is to RTFM.





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If you didn't focus on the single thread- but instead looked at the forum. You would see this question has been answered previously. Of course, it's easier to ask than look- so people ask.

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wrECKster:

I think your posts were legitimate. I am not good at searches. I try a million things then I ask for help from my buddies and they have an answer back in 20 seconds. People use the net differently and what may be easy for one may not be easy for another. Everyone’s knowledge and experience are different. No one ever learns from someone who make them feel dumb. Please do not quit using this site. Most of the people here are nice. The others you can ignore. Hope you have a great experience here.

I am only a user of this site and tied to it in no other way.

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Well, I guess I'll comment on this...

As for my self, I'm new to Programming and of course new to ASP.NET…

Hence the title of the book “BEGINNING” ASP.NET… I can’t find anywhere on my book where it references “APRESS”… As Joe Consumer, I don’t bone-up on which books Wrox Press truly publishes/purchases…

As a surfer of the Internet, that’s exactly what it is… Surfing the web looking for the content I need…

The book reads.
Quote…
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Source Code and Updates
When you log on to the Wrox.com site at http://www.wrox.com/, SIMPLY locate the title through our SEARCH facility or by using one of the titles lists. Then click on the Download Code link on the book’s detail page and you can obtain all the source code.
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So, I type the title of my book in the SEARCH field and click on the “GO” button, and what do I get…
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Wrox.com Site Search Results

There are no pages that contain the search text Beginning ASP.NET E-Commerce
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Hmmm… So I click on the link “Book List” on the top menu, Sweet! I get a big list of books… My book has got be on this list, Because I purchased a WROX Press Book and I’m on the WROX website right????

Wrong..
So, Then I click on the “Download Code” Link next to the “Book List” link… (Enough Already Give Me My Code!) great another list of books with a lot of gibber gabber above it that doesn’t have my book listed. And again I don’t know which books WROX has purchased?

I would think that the fact that my book was Published by WROX they would have something to do with the book!

Don’t tell me that WROX can’t have a list of book which they know they don’t have the code for… Simple! No links! Just Clean and Clear info on where to get the code for which books.


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Originally posted by Hal Levy

If someone thinks they are going to survive in this business, it's going to take more intelegence than required to search for a books download.

Hal Levy
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Maybe I won’t make it in this business, but I’m am willing to “Purchase” a book from “WROX” to try and learn… That alone should motivate WROX to clear this up, and also hunt down “Unemployed Hal Levy” and kick his A$$. For being, you know, an A$$...

Hey HAL... I have a JOB... And, I make good money... :D

PS. This is how you spell "Intelligence"... HAL..

Stinky



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